Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread KV9U
John, Your post responded to my comment that we had developed two sound card modes for the PC. One for windows and one for Linux. Your post only indicated: "Yes I know I ran test on it It was carp.. could only - at best to 42.72 per cent of what a TNC would do." This perhaps was Amtor ru

Re: [digitalradio] AGC and PSK31

2006-09-17 Thread Andrew O'Brien
On 9/17/06, Scott Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Where did you see that statement Andy? The thing to turn down until > you have no AGC is the audio drive from the soundcard, NOT the RF > gain. Nothing wrong with turning down the RF gain if you want to run > lower power, but that wi

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread KV9U
John, As I have mentioned before, SCAMP was being developed by the Winlink 2000 programmer as a replacement or at least an alternative soundcard mode for Pactor 1, 2 and 3. The mode worked superbly well for good signal conditions. Faster than Pactor 2, but in a relatively wide band similar to

Re: [digitalradio] AGC and PSK31

2006-09-17 Thread Scott Hill
Where did you see that statement Andy? The thing to turn down until you have no AGC is the audio drive from the soundcard, NOT the RF gain. Nothing wrong with turning down the RF gain if you want to run lower power, but that will not get rid of splatter caused by the AGC. Scott/K6IX Andrew O

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread John Becker
At 06:58 PM 9/17/2006, you wrote: >+++AA6YQ comments below > >+++Then having a technical discussion with you is a waste of time, >John. You were right, the thread is dead. Not really Dave, if you recall I have been running ARQ Amtor since the early days when you had to have the printed circuit bo

[digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread Dave Bernstein
+++AA6YQ comments below --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 05:49 PM 9/17/2006, you wrote: >>>Before you change the subject, please acknowledge that its >>>possible for computers with soundcards to run protocols with ARQ. >>>Two examples have been cit

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread John Becker
I can not do that Dave as I never have tried scamp. And really not up with the sound card stuff any longer. I don't care for PSK and never went back to it after a week or two. But it seems to me - if it can be done we all would be doing it right now. And that I don't see. I really did not like

[digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread Dave Bernstein
There are two possible explanations for why we don't see PC-hosted Pactor 3 running on the bands today, even though its technically feasible: 1. a PC-based implementation makes little financial sense 2. information sufficiently detailed to implement Pactor 3 has not been publicly released Unt

[digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread Dave Bernstein
Before you change the subject, please acknowledge that its possible for computers with soundcards to run protocols with ARQ. Two examples have been cited: SCAMP, and PSKMail. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 11:28 PM

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread John Becker
From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Vojt=ECch=20Bubn=EDk?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Can you put a name in there for the list members? John, W0JAB list moderator [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of intere

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread John Becker
At 09:33 AM 9/15/2006, you wrote: >John, > >What modes are you talking about. As I mentioned, Amtor and Pactor are >dead as far as sound cards go. Amtor and Pactor - I think that was very clear in my post Rick. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.or

RE: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread John Becker
> >Wrong I think. With the right operating system, running on the >right/correctly configured computer (hardware) and with the right software, >you can do what Pactor II/III or almost any other mode used can do. Really ? If this was true we would be running it today. And I just don't see it o

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ sound card modes

2006-09-17 Thread John Becker
At 11:28 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote: AA6YQ comments below > Wrong. SCAMP, a protocol that employs ARQ to attain reliable >delivery, was implemented on a Windows PC with a soundcard rather >than an outboard TNC. SCAMP was specifically design to tolerate the >long delays caused by the lack of

[digitalradio] AGC and PSK31

2006-09-17 Thread Andrew O'Brien
"Turning down the RF gain will reduce the signal below the level that causes any (or much) AGC action. Always use your slowest AGC setting. " Can someone explain this statement? In my radio, with only an "AGC FAST/SLOW" option, reducing the RF gain appeared to may no difference in reducing the i

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ Soundcard Modes

2006-09-17 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello, >Note: there are not the only modes without documentation... No amateur modes. The optimum possible is the DominoEX specifications of Murray ZL1BPU (a professional work). Some amateur modes are only documented through source. It's possible to extract specifications from a source but it's

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARQ Soundcard Modes

2006-09-17 Thread kd4e
> Note: there are not the only modes without documentation... > > 73 Patrick Are the other undocumented modes also commercial products? If a request is made to view the documentation is there an explanation as to why it is secret? -- Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E ... somewhere in FL URL: bibleseve