Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread Jose A. Amador
Alan Barrow wrote: > Yes, I understand "it works". FBB works OK on HF because once you are > logged in, it's not that interactive. But you still have 2-3 turnarounds > before you send the initial message, etc. FBB protocol has a feature I find very valuable: the Z-modem style resume. JNOS had no

RE: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread John Bradley
You are right in that the likely solution would be SCS and Pactor3. The only other thing that we have tried is RFSM8000, developed by Dimitri , which has a email gateway built into it, is ARQ and runs on soundcard Nobody in the US is using this on the ham bands at least since it does not co

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread Alan Barrow
Jose A. Amador wrote: > Based on what I know, for SMTP, JNOS may be an option at less than 300 > baud, i.e., 100-110 baud or PAX, using MultiPSK as "soundcard modem". > > I have not tested any of it yet. I have had no time and possibilities to > test it so far. > > JNOS can use FBB compression or

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread Alan Barrow
John Bradley wrote: > "ARES has responded with a command unit which has HF data capability. This > could include a WIFI router so that laptops could be included from the local > EOC. This command unit would work back into an EOC with data and internet > connections. ARES would be tasked with passin

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread Jose A. Amador
Based on what I know, for SMTP, JNOS may be an option at less than 300 baud, i.e., 100-110 baud or PAX, using MultiPSK as "soundcard modem". I have not tested any of it yet. I have had no time and possibilities to test it so far. JNOS can use FBB compression or LZW compressed SMTP on any of it

[digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread John Bradley
" For several reasons we did not emulate the full forwarding syntax of the BBS world, as it really starts to increase the scope as you get into "store & forward". Once you accept a message, you own it, including communicating failure back to the initiating session. Big responsibility. So by desig

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a

2009-01-31 Thread Alan Barrow
Jose A. Amador wrote: > I almost always used JNOS with KISS interfaces, it is a natural way of > using it. TNC's under MSDOS, and also thru pipes under Linux with > net2kiss (I would have to go back to the manual to remember a few > details). It could be interfaced with the BPQ switch, so FBB, J

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a

2009-01-30 Thread Rick W
When I used to be on another digital group (I think it may have been one of the TAPR lists?), Maiko was able to get certain hardware/firmware to work with his development of JNOS2. Although JNOS is very theoretical to me, I wonder if it could it be set up with the mode of your choice (within li

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a

2009-01-30 Thread Jose A. Amador
I almost always used JNOS with KISS interfaces, it is a natural way of using it. TNC's under MSDOS, and also thru pipes under Linux with net2kiss (I would have to go back to the manual to remember a few details). It could be interfaced with the BPQ switch, so FBB, JNOS, the BPQ switch could sh

[digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a

2009-01-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
(due to the translation of protocols), but another solution would be to use the TCP/IP link (RX/TX) and add a new protocol layer (not simple either). I could extend the functions from the TCP/IP control. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: "Rick W" To: Sent: Friday, Jan

RE: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a

2009-01-30 Thread John Bradley
So how would we go about using FBB or JNOS? JNOS has appeal since it can gateway to the internet, a desirable feature for emergency comms John VE5MU I believe that the simplest is not reinventing the wheel, and using MultiPSK as a modem, using traditional BBS programs as the mail application. Do

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a

2009-01-30 Thread José A. Amador
I believe that the simplest is not reinventing the wheel, and using MultiPSK as a modem, using traditional BBS programs as the mail application. Does anyone find this to be wrong? The store and forward part could mean a *LOT* of work to be done, or actually, re-done... For traditional ham mai

RE: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a

2009-01-30 Thread John Bradley
technically we were using FAE400 mode and FAE2000 modes, in ARQ as opposed to general broadcast (unproto) mode. I agree with you on the 400ARQ mode, and the feature I appreciate most is the ability to send mail to an unattended station, having determined that the unattended station can hear

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a

2009-01-30 Thread Rick W
Hi John, At the time I was listening to the frequency there were RTTY stations on either side and very close, so did not attempt a connection. Were you using ALE400 or FAE400? My understanding is that FAE is faster than the ALE with plain text due to compression which I don't think is availabl

[digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a

2009-01-29 Thread John Bradley
After an evening of limited testing, VE6OG and I found ALE400 much better on a file transfer tonight, given the band conditions and QRM. Both stations remain on for the rest of the night and early morning . John VE5MU

[digitalradio] ALE400 and 141A

2009-01-29 Thread John Bradley
As of Z , VE5MU and VE5GPM are on 3596USB dial , MU running ALE400, GPM running 141A. Stations will be operating until 0700 or later Both have QRZ and HFN enabled, try a connect or sounding . Or try sending a small text file (1K or so). reception reports would be appreciated John V

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141A

2009-01-19 Thread Alan Barrow
John Bradley wrote: > > > > · Have given up on the PCALE and HFlink bunch, since there > seems to be no interest in doing anything other than sending 1 line > messages to each other , or simply sounding. The MARS version of PCALE > might work, but the author is not allowing use of this so

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141A

2009-01-19 Thread Rick W
I tried to connect again today (this afternoon) as I saw your request for connecting via FAE400 on 14.111 and 7.103. I tried both stations callsigns as it almost seemed as if the frequencies were reversed from the other day with the regular MIL-STD-188-141A mode, but maybe I misread that, HI. I

[digitalradio] ALE400 and 141A

2009-01-19 Thread John Bradley
In answer to your questions... . did not have any luck with a connect from anyone other than local hams on both 141A and ALE400 , but the bands were in particularly bad shape over the weekend . Am in the process of installing a 800watt solid state amp at VE5GPM, so will try that later t