[digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-26 Thread Graham
t; > _ > > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of jhaynesatalumni > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:04 PM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: on another note > > > > --- In

RE: [digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-26 Thread W5XR
radio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: on another note --- In digitalradio@ <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "W5XR" wrote: > > I'm asking. :) > > Bob, W5XR. O.K. For START-STOP synchronization to work the receiving shaft

[digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-26 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "W5XR" wrote: > > I'm asking. :) > > Bob, W5XR. O.K. For START-STOP synchronization to work the receiving shaft (selector or distributor) has to stop between characters. The Morkrum Co. (ancestor of Teletype Corp.) had the sending and receiving distributor

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2009-02-25 Thread W5XR
I'm asking. :) Bob, W5XR. _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jhaynesatalumni Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:26 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: on another note --- In digital

[digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-25 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker" wrote: > A synchronous RTTY under Windows is possible with a standard symbol > synchronization (with or without a PLL which can be seen as the "digital > flywheel"). However, the stop bit (1.5 symbols) complicates all as it is not > an

Re: [digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-25 Thread Patrick Lindecker
... 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: "jhaynesatalumni" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: on another note > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Vojtech Bubnik" wrote: > >> Patrick, I have a proposal for one low

[digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-25 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Vojtech Bubnik" wrote: > Patrick, I have a proposal for one low hanging fruit project. How > about to receive RTTY in a synchronous way? I believe most SW really > generate precise synchronous RTTY, where the only variable is the > unknown stop bit length (mo

[digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-25 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
Hi Patrick and others. > I don't think it would be technically very difficult to do something equivalent to P3 with sound cards. I think that it would even possible to do much better with, for example, multi-users protocol. I completely agree. > The problem is the time necessary to do this. An a

[digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-23 Thread jhaynesatalumni
Something I forgot to mention earlier in suggesting a Pentium with sound card might be usable as a dedicated DSP engine - the K6STI software absolutely required an ISA SoundBlaster. If we want to define a new DSP engine we need some higher level of abstraction to be able to cope with hardware that

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2009-02-23 Thread Rick W
While the Pactor 2 and 3 modes are quite good, they do use a constant 100 baud signaling rate. SCS indicated a number of years ago that their tests showed that with what at that time, they considered strong DSP, the desire for improved data throughput and I think resistance to Doppler, the 100

[digitalradio] Re: on another note

2009-02-23 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Rud Merriam" wrote: > > First, I would not dismiss sound card modes. I think there is much more > that can be done with them. One of the main issues IMO is that they > don't (1) adapt to changing band conditions, and (2) don't utilize FEC > as much as is possi