Amen!!
Barry
AA7ZC
From: Steve Waterman,
k4cjx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
10:28 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re:
Emergency Communications: was Win Link
Imperial county (next door?) used it extensively
accoring to the Red
Cross there.
This thread needs to end. It is going nowhere.
Steve, k4cjx
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> But did they use Winlink? That was the
gist of my original post.
As an avid RTTY op for the past 23 years, I doubt
very seriously RTTY
is used in local disasters. Two meters
or other VHF bands yes, but
digital, no.
>
> Buddy WB4M
> All outgoing emails scanned with Norton's
Anti-virus.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dr. Howard S. White
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
2:39 AM
> Subject: [digitalradio] Emergency
Communications: was Win Link
>
>
> Buddy:
>
>
> You don't have to go so far as India... How
about something
closer to home... like San Diego
>
>
> The 2003 San Diego Cedar Fires
>
Most people are unaware that during the recent 2003
Cedar Fires which so devastated San Diego that
Land Lines Telephones
failed due to downed wires, Cellular Systems
failed due to
overloading, downed towers, failed links and
signal refraction from
smoke and most seriously the 800 MHz trunked
emergency radio network
which was used by all the fire fighters, police
and other emergency
workers failed due to overloading and severe signal
refraction from
the smoke. In other words there was
virtually no communications
whatsoever for several days.. EXCEPT....
>
> The only group that was able to
provide consistent reliable
communications was a group of 180+ volunteer
amateur radio operators
operating under the auspices of ARES®, CERO, ARC,
CDF and CARES.
This, of course, is not surprising as in most
civil emergencies, such
as 9/11; Amateur Radio Operators are usually the
only ones that
continue to communicate reliably when all other
means of
communications fail.
>
> Why do government communications
systems always fail in true
emergencies and our ham systems continue to work?
The simple answer
is bio diversity. We have many more
frequencies, many more modes and
many more highly qualified trained operators than
the government
does. In the rush for funds, Congress
sold off much of the
government emergency spectrum to the private
sector. This sale which
forced government emergency services into a single
tiny band of
frequencies coupled with totally inadequate
funding, leaves the
public totally unprotected every time a major
emergency hits us.
The government communications systems which work
OK during normal
times, they just can't handle the volume or
diversity of real
emergencies
>
> So much for Ham Radio becoming a
joke!
>
>
__________________________________________________________
> Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng.,
VE3GFW/K6 ex-AE6SM KY6LA
> "No Good Deed Goes
Unpunished"
> Formerly "Awfully Extremely
Six Sado Masochist"
> "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"
> Website: www.ky6la.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Waterman,
k4cjx
> To:
digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April
12, 2005 9:21 PM
> Subject:
[digitalradio] Re: Win Link
>
>
>
> Buddy,
>
> Daily. We get
requests from the U.S. Coast Guard every other
week or
> so, as well as other
country agencies, and we have a good track
> record in finding
these vessels.
>
> During the last
Hurricane episode, we were the only visible
> communications from
many of the islands, the most widely known
was
> Grenada, but there were many more, including
coastal areas
within th
> USA.
>
> During the Tsunami Disaster
(still a disaster, still pumping
traffic)
> offshore vessels out
off the shallow coastal areas barely felt
> the "bump,"
however, they were able to get to shore and assist
where
> feasible. They still
are assisting.
>
> The recent failure of
INTELSAT 804, which was a major pipeline
for
> several New Zealand
Common Carriers, the Military, and
Broadcast
> Stations, failed
permanently. High revenue users were placed on
other
> satellites, but very
many islands were left without
communications.
> We were able to
provide communications for many of those
without it.
> We still do.
>
> In fact, a PMBO is
being set up in India along
with the PMBO in
> Darwin, Australia
specifically to assist with these last two
> unfortunate
incidents.
>
> There is other not so
public assistance coming out of other
parts of
> the World, and they
are still in operation. Best I can give you
there
> is to review the CBS
documentary of past efforts in that part
of the
> world with a video
called "Last Voice From Kuwait" I think
still at
> the ARRL, although I
am not certain if they have copies.
>
> There is a more, such
as the horror show weather in Puru and
Chili
> immediately after the
hurricanes last year, but hopefully, you
get
> the picture.
>
>
> Steve, k4cjx
>
>
> --- In
digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Great overall
post, Dean! Especially this part:
> >
> > >
> > >
1. Ham radio is dying, because modern communications
technology
> has
> >
> passed it, and the amateur community, even
if totally
united
> (ha
> >
> ha), doesn't have the resources to combat it
in any
> meaningful way.
> > >
2. The attempt to justify amateur radio by its role in
providing
> >
> emergency and public service communications
is rapidly
> becoming a
> >
> joke.
> >
> > Can someone tell
me the last time there was an emergency that
wiped
> out
> >
"normal" communications, and a bunch of hams got on Winlink
and
> saved the
> > day?
When a severe emergency happens, like a tornado,
hurricane,
> or
> > nuclear
war, I think most people are mainly concerned with
saving
> their
> > bacon, and not
getting on the air.
> >
> > 73 Buddy WB4M
>
>
>
>
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