Re: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-25 Thread Patrick Lindecker
to the ionospheric conditions... 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: multi...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:48 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] on another note I don't think it would be technically very

Re: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John, I don't think it would be technically very difficult to do something equivalent to P3 with sound cards. I think that it would even possible to do much better with, for example, multi-users protocol. The problem is the time necessary to do this. An amateur can work (with pleasure

RE: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-24 Thread John Bradley
I don't think it would be technically very difficult to do something equivalent to P3 with sound cards. I think that it would even possible to do much better with, for example, multi-users protocol. RFSM8000 has come as close as anything so far, but it's weakness was operating well under

RE: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-23 Thread Rud Merriam
First, I would not dismiss sound card modes. I think there is much more that can be done with them. One of the main issues IMO is that they don't (1) adapt to changing band conditions, and (2) don't utilize FEC as much as is possible. (We also might need much better sound cards. The study reported

RE: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-23 Thread David Little
John, You have confirmed what others already know about P3. I sold my PTC IIex last year, when the Winmor protocol was announced to be in development. It should introduce an ARQ mode to compete with P3, but will not replace it. I had the SCS in a go kit with either a Yaesu FT-897D or and

Re: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-23 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi John I have had the same experience . I have also been testing the SCS PTC2 usb modem with a pactor3. Although I love Patrick's ale400 mode , I have to admit , nothing can compete with the P3 mode. 73 de la5vna Steinar John Bradley wrote: As many of you know, I have been very

Re: [digitalradio] on another note

2009-02-23 Thread Howard Brown
Hi John, Let's reserve judgment just a bit longer. Maybe the performance of Winmor will be good enough so that we won't need to buy the expensive modems. Maybe it will listen before transmitting. Now if they would modify the Winlink system so that it listened before transmitting and there