Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Jack Coats
At a former gig, we had a 'private' back net that we used for backups, monitoring, NAS data, and KVMs. The 'front net' went out through the public network firewalls/routers, etc. ... This was at an ISP we were building from scratch, so it was also a 'selling point' that internal overhead traffic

Re: VIrtualization HA challenge

2011-01-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
At work I've got 6 aging Intel whiteboxes 4 of which have 64GB, and our products are very memory intensive. We are planning on installing a dedicated virtual system. IT wants to get us a Sun Fire X4170. This system seems to be underpowered for our needs, so we are pushing back either for a Sun Fire

RE: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf > Of Matt Shields > > For small networks it may not matter, or it may be trying to keep costs > down. But as you get larger you want to keep your remote > management/access > network separate from your production traffic.

RE: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf > Of Daniel Feenberg > > > All the above problems were solved at a very similar per-port price point > > ($300 give or take) using Dell DRAC or HP ILO cards. Someone already > pointed > > out the negative of that solution:

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Matt Shields
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2011, Rich Braun wrote: > > > > > All the above problems were solved at a very similar per-port price point > > ($300 give or take) using Dell DRAC or HP ILO cards. Someone already > pointed > > out the negative of that

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011, Rich Braun wrote: > > All the above problems were solved at a very similar per-port price point > ($300 give or take) using Dell DRAC or HP ILO cards. Someone already pointed > out the negative of that solution: you have to build out a separate physical > LAN, at a cost of

Re: VIrtualization HA challenge

2011-01-17 Thread Kent Borg
Rich Braun wrote: > - Two multi-core systems with two NIC cards and 4-6 SATA drives, 16-32GB of > RAM. > - Xen or VirtualBox virtualization. > - Two ethernet switches, at least one of which is jumbo-frame capable (for use > as a SAN switch). > - Open-source SAN with automatic failover of all the s

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Rich Braun
Matt Shields suggested: > Everyone should have some type of > datacenter/server room asset/rack/IP/cable management system in place. > Whether it's home grown or something like http://racktables.org/ Good point. I always build my own inventory-management system. Labor cost of keeping it updated

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Matt Shields
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Rich Braun wrote: > > it becomes very difficult to keep track of which server is connected to > which KVM switch if > you have more than 2 > > -rich > > That's where the Raritan Command Console comes in. Centralize management of all Raritan products and multi-u

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Rich Braun
My last employer owned four Raritan Dominion KX-432 units. I wound up detesting them for several reasons, but kept them in place as a backup to the solution we migrated into. What was good about Raritan: relative ease of setup, full mouse/keyboard/graphics support, support for a couple of client

VIrtualization HA challenge

2011-01-17 Thread Rich Braun
I've spent the past couple months tinkering with tools for high-availability and virtualization; what seems tantalizingly possible is this setup: - Two multi-core systems with two NIC cards and 4-6 SATA drives, 16-32GB of RAM. - Xen or VirtualBox virtualization. - Two ethernet switches, at least o

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Matt Shields
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 01/17/2011 10:06 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > >> From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On > Behalf > >> Of Dave Peters > >> > >> My company is looking to purchase a KVM over IP. Any suggestion for KVM > >> over

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/17/2011 10:06 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf >> Of Dave Peters >> >> My company is looking to purchase a KVM over IP. Any suggestion for KVM >> over IP is appreciated. > Most systems have built-in now, ilom, ipmi, remot

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Matt Shields
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf > > Of Dave Peters > > > > My company is looking to purchase a KVM over IP. Any suggestion for KVM > > over IP is appreciated. > > Most systems have built-in now,

RE: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf > Of Dave Peters > > My company is looking to purchase a KVM over IP. Any suggestion for KVM > over IP is appreciated. Most systems have built-in now, ilom, ipmi, remote console ... names and functionality vary from vendor

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Matt Shields
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Dave Peters wrote: > All, > > My company is looking to purchase a KVM over IP. Any suggestion for KVM > over IP is appreciated. > > Thanks, > > -Dave > > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@blu.org > http://lists.blu

Re: OT: Java Tutor

2011-01-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/17/2011 09:44 AM, theBlueSage wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Thought I'd check with you all first before I go Craigslist, but I am > looking for someone to give me one on one fast-track into Java. I have > been writing code for many years, but have managed to avoid Java to this > point. However I am n

Re: Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/17/2011 09:27 AM, Dave Peters wrote: > All, > > My company is looking to purchase a KVM over IP. Any suggestion for KVM over > IP is appreciated. We had originally purchased a Rose Electronics UltraView Remote for our office because our company has a lot of Rose stuff. Big mistake. Stay away

OT: Java Tutor

2011-01-17 Thread theBlueSage
Hi Guys, Thought I'd check with you all first before I go Craigslist, but I am looking for someone to give me one on one fast-track into Java. I have been writing code for many years, but have managed to avoid Java to this point. However I am now at a job where I need to know it and the best way I

Suggestion for KVM over IP

2011-01-17 Thread Dave Peters
All, My company is looking to purchase a KVM over IP. Any suggestion for KVM over IP is appreciated. Thanks, -Dave ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss