Re: Gnome 3 Discussions

2011-04-26 Thread Rob Hasselbaum
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Tom Metro wrote: > David Kramer wrote: > > Having a configuration setting in an advanced tab somewhere to turn on > > showing the names/icons/both in app links does NOT make anything harder > > for the beginners, and enables the power user. > > OK. I'm not opposed

Re: Gnome 3 Discussions

2011-04-26 Thread Richard Pieri
On Apr 26, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Tom Metro wrote: > > This is a group of developers, which by definition are power users, and > presumably are living with GNOME 3. Certainly they've anticipated a > desire to retain legacy behavior. It's not like you can upgrade to GNOME > 3, but keep running the GNOME

Re: Core i5-2500k first impressions

2011-04-26 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Apr 25, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Rich Braun wrote: > Jarod Wilson observed: >> I think you're failing to comprehend some of what it is that you >> actually get from "enterprise" distros. > > Indeed, you're right. Having been a long-time user of a couple of them, and > no longer am--I never quite ag

Fedora 14 -- Hard Drive Temperature over 60 C.

2011-04-26 Thread Hsuan-Yeh Chang
Hello all! I have Fedora 14 on my laptop (HP Pavillion dv2000), and it makes my hard drive (Seagate) generates a lot of heat: # hddtemp /dev/sda /dev/sda: ST9250315AS: 62°C Any suggestions on how to make my hard drive spin down or cool down? Thanks! Hsuanyeh _

Re: Gnome 3 Discussions

2011-04-26 Thread Tom Metro
David Kramer wrote: > Having a configuration setting in an advanced tab somewhere to turn on > showing the names/icons/both in app links does NOT make anything harder > for the beginners, and enables the power user. OK. I'm not opposed to the ability to configure things. As an end-user, it's usual

Re: Gnome 3 Discussions

2011-04-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/26/2011 11:03 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote: > These are great points. The apparent goal behind Gnome3 is to attract NEW > users, not to address the needs and wants of the existing user base. > > I'm always a huge fan of soliciting ideas and feedback from users, but I > think this philosophy is

Re: Gnome 3 Discussions

2011-04-26 Thread Richard Pieri
On Apr 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > I think your last sentence might hit the nail on the head. > But, I think we, in the Linux community, have some interesting issues. I disagree. I don't see this as a problem. Rather, I see this as the excuse used to avoid addressing the pr

Re: Gnome 3 Discussions

2011-04-26 Thread Chris O'Connell
These are great points. The apparent goal behind Gnome3 is to attract NEW users, not to address the needs and wants of the existing user base. I'm always a huge fan of soliciting ideas and feedback from users, but I think this philosophy is lost on many developers and the management that guides t

Re: Gnome 3 Discussions

2011-04-26 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
I think what was most interesting to me about the direction GNOME 3 took is that someone still believes in the possibility of mainstream use of Linux on the desktop! The CEO of Red Hat basically said that the "linux desktop" market was not a goal for them, and yet we had two Red Hat employees tal

Re: Gnome 3 Discussions

2011-04-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/26/2011 10:01 AM, Richard Pieri wrote: > On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:15 AM, David Kramer wrote: >> Having a configuration setting in an advanced tab somewhere to turn on >> showing the names/icons/both in app links does NOT make anything harder >> for the beginners, and enables the power user. Thi

Re: ZFS and block deduplication

2011-04-26 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Tom Metro wrote: > Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> (2) We're assuming the data in question is not being maliciously formed for >> the purposes of causing a hash collision.  I think this is a safe >> assumption, because in the event of a collision, you would have two >>

Re: Gnome 3 Discussions

2011-04-26 Thread Richard Pieri
On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:15 AM, David Kramer wrote: > > Having a configuration setting in an advanced tab somewhere to turn on > showing the names/icons/both in app links does NOT make anything harder > for the beginners, and enables the power user. This is just one thing > that should be configurab