Re: [Discuss] Oracle Linux, going after CentOs

2012-07-26 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 13:25 -0400, Richard Pieri wrote: > doesn't include other code and tools like RPM and Anaconda. Er right, for good reason. RPM isn't really useful ;-) *poke* Seriously Red Hat do awesome work, but RPM is like a deadweight around the ankles of derivatives. Better stick to pra

Re: [Discuss] Oracle Linux, going after CentOs

2012-07-26 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/26/2012 2:34 PM, Tom Metro wrote: I doubt it. Why bother setting up a situation where you have backhanded leverage over a competitor when it is a much clearer path to simply transition customers from your own free product to your own paid product, and not involve the competitor at all. RHE

Re: [Discuss] router configuration UI online

2012-07-26 Thread Tom Metro
Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote: > Pretty good idea: > > Linksys / Cisco has a website where you can view the User Interface of > all of their router models interactively: > http://ui.linksys.com > > You can find the model, and version and get the exact UI that your > friend is asking you about w

Re: [Discuss] Raspberry Pi

2012-07-26 Thread Tom Metro
Guy Gold wrote: > I recall a message from [Announce] about live demo as well (did not attend). You're referring to the demo by Federico Lucifredi, who obviously has one. I believe at least one other person mention having one on the Hardware Hacking[1] list. > has anyone ordered it yet ? I haven

Re: [Discuss] "The Manchurian Computer"?

2012-07-26 Thread Kent Borg
Jerry Feldman wrote: Why not install Ubuntu 12.04 as the primary OS, with Windows 7 Professional in a Virtual Machine, The X230 is a 64-bit processor with the Virtualization assist available on the CPU, and the setting can be done through the BIOS. I turned on the virtualization bits in the

Re: [Discuss] Oracle Linux, going after CentOs

2012-07-26 Thread Tom Metro
Jim Gasek wrote: > Yes, Oracle does want to go "big time" in Linux, and yes, Redhat is the > target. > > Oracle watched with interest as big banks began displacing (Sun and others) > in favor of RHEL, and other linux, and then ran the apps and databases > on top of Linux. > > Oracle wants to pro

[Discuss] router configuration UI online

2012-07-26 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
Pretty good idea: Linksys / Cisco has a website where you can view the User Interface of all of their router models interactively: http://ui.linksys.com You can find the model, and version and get the exact UI that your friend is asking you about when they can't connect or setup their router. e.

Re: [Discuss] Oracle Linux, going after CentOs

2012-07-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 07/26/2012 01:25 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: > On 7/26/2012 11:55 AM, Martin Owens wrote: >> Linux, like so many commons, has just becomes a part of everything. The >> economic value of it is so staggering that you would not and possibly >> could not pay out it's true economic impact. Thankfully we

Re: [Discuss] distribution vendor involvement in GNOME

2012-07-26 Thread Tom Metro
Martin Owens wrote: > ...all that lovely money currently being splashed about in Gnome and > Fedora to kick back our desktop's development will shrink. It's well known that RedHat is one of the big contributors to the Linux kernel. Are there any distribution vendors that have a similar relationsh

Re: [Discuss] "The Manchurian Computer"?

2012-07-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
Why not install Ubuntu 12.04 as the primary OS, with Windows 7 Professional in a Virtual Machine, The X230 is a 64-bit processor with the Virtualization assist available on the CPU, and the setting can be done through the BIOS. On 07/26/2012 11:36 AM, Kent Borg wrote: > So I am waiting for Linux t

Re: [Discuss] Oracle Linux, going after CentOs

2012-07-26 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/26/2012 11:55 AM, Martin Owens wrote: Linux, like so many commons, has just becomes a part of everything. The economic value of it is so staggering that you would not and possibly could not pay out it's true economic impact. Thankfully we don't pay what the value of things to us, we hope to

Re: [Discuss] Oracle Linux, going after CentOs

2012-07-26 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 11:06 -0400, Richard Pieri wrote: > Red Hat sells responsibility. Forsooth! So does everyone else, be that bundled with iron or CDs or a smile on the sales agent's face. RedHat though do a lot of work with the money they earn. It is good for us that their products defy norma

Re: [Discuss] "The Manchurian Computer"?

2012-07-26 Thread Jack Coats
> Anyway, this is a Lenovo X230 smallish-book, fresh off the truck. How many > backdoors did Lenovo put in it? How many is my Ubuntu install susceptible > to? Probably fewer than with Asus or Dell :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://list

[Discuss] "The Manchurian Computer"?

2012-07-26 Thread Kent Borg
So I am waiting for Linux to install on my new computer. If I am successful, I will have a dual-boot machine, Windows 7 Professional and Ubuntu 12.04 (with full disk encryption). [Um, er, just realized I made a mistake in my partitioning: I did *full* disk encryption, including /boot, which m

[Discuss] Boston Linux and Unix reminder Annual Summer BBQ XVIII Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:00 PM

2012-07-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
Boston Linux and Unix Annual Summer BBQ XVIII When: Saturday, July 28, 2012 from 1:00 pm to 6:00 pm Where: John and Shelley Chambers' home 33 Cedarwood Avenue, Waltham, MA. BYOF - Bring Your Own Food Boston Linux & Unix is holding its seventeenth annual summer BBQ on Saturday, July 28, beginning

Re: [Discuss] Oracle Linux, going after CentOs

2012-07-26 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/25/2012 11:21 PM, Martin Owens wrote: Which is amusing because Red Hat's inflated prices are held aloft by comparative expectation. Basically everyone in that market from Microsoft, IBM and even Oracle are charging amazing sums of money that don't really relate to the floor of the product th

Re: [Discuss] Interesting work in the industry?

2012-07-26 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:35:32AM -0400, Charlie Bennett wrote: > I'll bite. Recruiter spam is uniformly useless. The whole choir is singing that. I've only met two recruiters I've ever had any use for. One was an internal headhunter at BBN/GTE, and the other burnt out quickly and took up knitti

Re: [Discuss] Interesting work in the industry?

2012-07-26 Thread Charlie Bennett
On Sun, 2012-07-22 at 08:42 -0400, Mark Woodward wrote: > While I am currently employed at a pretty good company, I am constantly > getting recruitment emails. And they are all the same basic things, java > web sites or internet security. Isn't *anyone* doing anything > interesting anymore? I'l