> ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
>> I don't think I said Mac didn't come with these, it may have sounded
>> implied. That was a "why linux" not a why not mac.
>
> The implication is that Linux is better than $ALTERNATIVE because it has
> all these things that $ALTERNATIVE lacks.
OK, so, I can ssh to
I use Linux with Drupal because my development desktop and server can both
run the same tools, software and configurations. And the full stack and
tools are all available to me at no charge so I can learn as much as I want
to and progress as far as I want to without having to pay for the privilege
The question was Why Linux meant in context, Why Linux Not Windows, for an
audience that may not know there's a choice at all.
Of course *We* know that Mac Server, OpenBSD, *BSD, and all the Linux are
all better than the old-school Unix Sys V/BSD/... servers, and thus any of
them would be better t
ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
I don't think I said Mac didn't come with these, it may have sounded
implied. That was a "why linux" not a why not mac.
The implication is that Linux is better than $ALTERNATIVE because it has
all these things that $ALTERNATIVE lacks.
QEMU: OS X doesn't ship with
> ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
>> In a web environment you should be using Linux, hands down. I'll amplify
>> this assertion a little bit as well, you should make sure your web
>> service
>> environment is in a virtual machine on Linux.
>
> What's wrong with *BSD? As a matter of fact, for security I
ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
QEMU and KVM are standard in most main stream Linux distros. This blows
every other system out of the water. In debian, it is merely "apt-get
install ..." The networking with QEMU and support packages is better than
most proprietary systems on Windows and Mac.
sudo p
>> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
>> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of
>>
>> In a web environment you should be using Linux, hands down. I'll amplify
>> this assertion a little bit as well, you should make sure your web
>> service
>> environment is in
ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
In a web environment you should be using Linux, hands down. I'll amplify
this assertion a little bit as well, you should make sure your web service
environment is in a virtual machine on Linux.
What's wrong with *BSD? As a matter of fact, for security I'd suggest
us
Martin Owens wrote:
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:47 -0500, Richard Pieri wrote:
No, it isn't, and please stop trying to shove your philosophy in my
mouth, thankyouverymuch.
Please sir! don't challenge my philosophy, my fragile world view can't
take it!
Broken, broken, rhetoric.
Martin,
Please
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of
> ma...@mohawksoft.com
>
> Ahh, there in lies the lies that lairs lie about the GPL.
It's not a lie, it's a common misunderstanding. You should tone down your
rhetoric.
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of
>
> In a web environment you should be using Linux, hands down. I'll amplify
> this assertion a little bit as well, you should make sure your web service
> environment is in a virtu
Mike Small writes:
> Richard Pieri writes:
>> Apple switched from GCC to LLVM/Clang four or five years ago
>> specifically because the Free Software folks were dragging their heels
>> on keeping GCC up to date with emerging C and C++ standards and 64-bit
>> support. Yes, the switch is painful. B
Richard Pieri writes:
> Apple switched from GCC to LLVM/Clang four or five years ago
> specifically because the Free Software folks were dragging their heels
> on keeping GCC up to date with emerging C and C++ standards and 64-bit
> support. Yes, the switch is painful. Blame the FSF for that one,
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:47 -0500, Richard Pieri wrote:
> No, it isn't, and please stop trying to shove your philosophy in my
> mouth, thankyouverymuch.
Please sir! don't challenge my philosophy, my fragile world view can't
take it!
Broken, broken, rhetoric.
Martin,
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Martin Owens wrote:
What you mean to say is "The ideal of short term job being done is more
important to me than my or client freedom or long term growth of
software"
No, it isn't, and please stop trying to shove your philosophy in my
mouth, thankyouverymuch.
--
Rich P.
_
I'm going to pick these apart because there's a fair bit of
misinformation here.
ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
Linux has a better grep and find.
OS X has BSD's grep and find, etc. Whether BSD or GNU user space tools
are "better" than the other is a philosophical debate. Worst case,
install MacPo
Yes, back on topic is good.
In a web environment you should be using Linux, hands down. I'll amplify
this assertion a little bit as well, you should make sure your web service
environment is in a virtual machine on Linux.
The shear number of tools available on Linux is just simply amazing.
Screen
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 15:52 -0500, Richard Pieri wrote:
> Ideology is all well and good but at the
> end of the day it doesn't get the job done.
No.
Ideology is just a description of the ideals, sorted according to
priority and often references the most important in that instance.
Getting the j
> ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
>>> Somehow this starts sounding like a bad Tom Cruise movie :)
>>
>> "bad Tom Cruise Movie" is a tautology
>
> There's "Risky Business". :)
I stand by my assertion. :-)
>
> But seriously, "why use Linux" as an euphemism for "why use Free
> Software" is a question of
A discussion of the ethics of Apache/MIT license vs GPL, however
interesting, has long since departed from Micky's requested topic still on
the Subject: line, which was motivated as, how to sell (Gnu/)Linux as
alternative to Windows Server as host for Drupal.
So can i rephrase OP's question as ,
ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
Somehow this starts sounding like a bad Tom Cruise movie :)
"bad Tom Cruise Movie" is a tautology
There's "Risky Business". :)
But seriously, "why use Linux" as an euphemism for "why use Free
Software" is a question of philosophy over utility. Free Software often
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:04 -0500, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
> "bad Tom Cruise Movie" is a tautology
You mean tortoligy ;-)
Martin,
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> Somehow this starts sounding like a bad Tom Cruise movie :)
"bad Tom Cruise Movie" is a tautology
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Bill Horne wrote:
>
>> On 2/12/2014 6:56 AM, js wrote:
>>
>>> one thing you have not mentioned are any back doors put in proprietary
>>> operating systems by
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 04:47:02AM -0500, MBR wrote:
> Hi Micky. If you're going to mention Linux and the FSF, it might be
> best if you were to call it "GNU/Linux" rather than "Linux" and
> explain why the FSF (and Stallman in particular) prefers "GNU/Linux"
> to simply "Linux". (See "What's in a
Somehow this starts sounding like a bad Tom Cruise movie :)
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Bill Horne wrote:
> On 2/12/2014 6:56 AM, js wrote:
>
>> one thing you have not mentioned are any back doors put in proprietary
>> operating systems by the orders of the US government. while it may not
I agree with Martin.
"Copyright" as used in production of proprietary software is a legal
mechanism for mass production of a fiat currency with little or no
intrinsic value. The copyright holder then has a way to print money.
"Copyleft" was designed to use our legal system to prevent accumulatio
On 2/12/2014 6:56 AM, js wrote:
one thing you have not mentioned are any back doors put in proprietary
operating systems by the orders of the US government. while it may not
be relevant to many, it is relevant to some people [and i'm talking
about whistle blowers or human rights activists instead
On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 00:13 -0600, Jack Coats wrote:
> Yes, sell hardware, support and installation services, books, classes
> is all fine, but they are comparatively 'high touch' sources of income
> where the software licensing approach is much 'lower touch' and scales
> if you have a product the
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 23:55:36 -0500, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Shirley_M=E1rquez_D=FAlcey?=
wrote:
>> The GPL has always denied some freedoms to developers, such as the
>> right to exclusively make money from their work.
>
>>Ahh, there in lies the lies that lairs lie about the GPL. The GPL does not
>>deny any
On 02/11/2014 06:45 PM, Rich Braun wrote:
> In what situation would I use Linux vs. something else?
>
one thing you have not mentioned are any back doors put in proprietary
operating systems by the orders of the US government. while it may not
be relevant to many, it is relevant to some people [an
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