Re: [Discuss] Linux file systems

2014-03-28 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
> From: aldo albanese [mailto:aldo_alban...@yahoo.com] > > At the beginning I was not too > specific about where I would utilize these system structures.  This group > brings another interesting point, what is the best file system for > different applications.  If I had to build a new server for p

Re: [Discuss] Quick question regarding Linux interpreter.

2014-03-28 Thread Jerry Feldman
The problem is 2.4 is installed in RHEL 5. But, I have re-coded those areas that won't work under 2.4 Python 2.6.2 is installed in our product directories, but additional modules like Tkinter are not. So, for my graphical programs, using the installed version of Python is probably the best approach

Re: [Discuss] Reading Linux book

2014-03-28 Thread Jerry Feldman
Installers can be confusing, but I have no problem making Anaconda do what I want it to do. On 03/27/2014 03:34 PM, Kent Borg wrote: > On 03/27/2014 03:03 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> Also, if you multi-boot Linuxes you can easily get the installer to >> point to your shared /home. I've done this w

Re: [Discuss] Linux file systems

2014-03-28 Thread Jerry Feldman
I'm a fan of btree file systems going back to the 1970s. IBM used it on their mainframes (VSAM) back then. On 03/28/2014 06:51 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: >> From: aldo albanese [mailto:aldo_alban...@yahoo.com] >> >> At the beginning I was not too >> specific about where I would utilize the

Re: [Discuss] Linux file systems

2014-03-28 Thread Mike Small
Jerry Feldman writes: > I'm a fan of btree file systems going back to the 1970s. IBM used it on > their mainframes (VSAM) back then. > Funny, I was just reading how Matthew Dillon intends to change from using btree in Hammer 1 to something else in Hammer 2: http://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/dragonf

Re: [Discuss] Linux file systems

2014-03-28 Thread Jack Coats
I took a VSAM internals class. It was interesting and super for the day. It was based on IBMs Virtual Storage Access Method they used to manage virtual memory, but it expanded and turned into a better alternative to 'ISAM' Index Storage Access Method that was used for database kinds of things with

Re: [Discuss] Linux file systems

2014-03-28 Thread Derek Atkins
Jerry Feldman writes: > When does Hans Reiser get out of jail. The reiserfs was halfway decent. You clearly didn't care about your data surviving a system crash, did you? -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processin

Re: [Discuss] Quick question regarding Linux interpreter.

2014-03-28 Thread Nuno Sucena Almeida
On 03/27/2014 02:08 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > I have a number of Python scripts that need Python 2.6.2 on RHEL 5. So, > I point the script to a version of Python I have installed on our I thought that virtualenv was supposed to address these dependencies issues? http://www.virtualenv.org/en/late

Re: [Discuss] Linux file systems

2014-03-28 Thread Nuno Sucena Almeida
On 03/28/2014 07:16 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > I'm a fan of btree file systems going back to the 1970s. IBM used it on > their mainframes (VSAM) back then. It seems that btrfs is now good enough for a famous social platform: http://beta.slashdot.org/story/199975 regards, Nuno -- http://aeminiu

Re: [Discuss] Reading Linux book

2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Barrett
On March 27, 2014, Mike Small quoth: >First, a big warning: By checking /etc into version control, you are >creating a copy of files like /etc/shadow that must remain >secret. [...] This is one reason I use the "sparse tree" method I mentioned yesterday, which versions only the files

Re: [Discuss] Linux file systems

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Pieri
Derek Atkins wrote: You clearly didn't care about your data surviving a system crash, did you? Forget system crashes. ReiserFS would eat your data under moderately high loads. Probably still does. -- Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org

Re: [Discuss] Linux file systems

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Pieri
Nuno Sucena Almeida wrote: It seems that btrfs is now good enough for a famous social platform: That's... hardly an endorsement. Facebook's deployment methodology is to drop untested things onto a server and see how many of the approximately 10K users complain. -- Rich P. __

Re: [Discuss] Reading Linux book

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Daniel Barrett wrote: > On March 27, 2014, Mike Small quoth: >>First, a big warning: By checking /etc into version control, you are >>creating a copy of files like /etc/shadow that must remain >>secret. [...] > > This is one reason I use the "sparse t

Re: [Discuss] Reading Linux book

2014-03-28 Thread Richard Pieri
Bill Bogstad wrote: I maintain that the minimal cost in disk space is repaid if it makes fixing a problem like this easier just one time in the life of a system. Absolutely. Disk space is cheap. My time isn't. -- Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Disc

Re: [Discuss] Reading Linux book

2014-03-28 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Mike Small wrote: > Bill Bogstad writes: >> Some Linux distributions make available a package called etckeeper > > From http://git.kitenet.net/?p=etckeeper.git;a=blob_plain;f=README;hb=HEAD > ... > ## security warnings > > First, a big warning: By checking