Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED

2015-10-05 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Rich Pieri wrote: > On 10/1/2015 11:01 PM, Shirley Márquez Dúlcey wrote: >> >> This story is far from nothing. The FCC could enact rules that would >> lock out the ability to load alternative firmware in a router - say, > > > blah-blah-blah. > > The FCC could have

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED

2015-10-05 Thread Rich Pieri
On 10/5/2015 3:20 AM, Bill Bogstad wrote: So what does it mean when the FCC's own documents suggest otherwise? For example, the document at: What it means is that you are taking one document to be something it isn't. FCC guidelines are not rules. They are not requirements. They are not even r

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED

2015-10-05 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Rich Pieri wrote: > On 10/5/2015 3:20 AM, Bill Bogstad wrote: >> >> So what does it mean when the FCC's own documents suggest otherwise? >> For example, the document at: > > > What it means is that you are taking one document to be something it isn't. > > FCC guide

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED

2015-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On > Behalf Of Shirley Márquez Dúlcey > > A router locked down in that way could not incorporate any GPLv3 code. I don't see any reason locked-down firmware would violate GPLv3. As long as you announce what code you're using, and

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED

2015-10-05 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: >> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On >> Behalf Of Shirley Márquez Dúlcey >> >> A router locked down in that way could not incorporate any GPLv3 code. > > I don't see any reason locked-down firmware wou

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED

2015-10-05 Thread Rich Pieri
On 10/5/2015 12:50 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: Vendors will take the path of least resistance. Tivo and others have already shown how to only allow signed firmware updates. Vendors Vendors will do what they think will generate the most revenue for the least total cost. The ones which have been

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2015-10-05 Thread Kurt L Keville
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Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED

2015-10-05 Thread Kurt L Keville
Fwded from Dave Taht... apologies if I am wading into the thread late... -- Signatures for the cerowrt letter to the fcc on the wifi lockdown issue are being collected at: http://goo.gl/forms/WCF7kPcFl9 I would love it if you could sign. (and reshare with other

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED

2015-10-05 Thread MBR
Unfortunately, Torvalds despises GPLv3, so the Linux kernel and anything else he has copyright on will stay with GPLv2. Mark Rosenthal On 10/5/15 1:33 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+blu=nedharve

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Hey FCC, Don't Lock Down Our Wi-Fi Routers | WIRED

2015-10-05 Thread Rich Pieri
On 10/5/2015 3:26 PM, MBR wrote: Unfortunately, Torvalds despises GPLv3, so the Linux kernel and anything else he has copyright on will stay with GPLv2. Access point vendors have been supporting Linux since the WRT54G, albeit most of them doing so unofficially so that they aren't bombarded wit