Re: [Discuss] Debian adds another systemd dependency, Busybox drops it

2015-11-03 Thread carmen
> Now that the war of words is over, a lot of very smart people are > surgically removing systemd, and it's being noticed. And they're all .. niche distros snipped .. Android is by far the most popular linux-distro, around a Billion users, and it's systemd-free DEBIAN used to run Debian on Andr

Re: [Discuss] Debian adds another systemd dependency, Busybox drops it

2015-11-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 10:17:36 -0500 Rich Pieri wrote: > Within the past few days, Debian have added another hard dependency > on systemd in sid. This time it is the Xorg server which is no longer > setuid. In order to make this work they implemented a hard dependency > on libpam-systemd along with

Re: [Discuss] Debian adds another systemd dependency, Busybox drops it

2015-11-03 Thread Rich Pieri
On 11/3/2015 10:31 AM, Thompson, David wrote: Systemd drama aside, an unprivileged Xorg sounds very useful. Does It's not really an unpriviliged X server. They've moved the privilege elevation from the file system (setuid root binary) to logind and the kernel. Debian have implemented Hans De

Re: [Discuss] Debian adds another systemd dependency, Busybox drops it

2015-11-03 Thread Mike Small
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 10:17:36AM -0500, Rich Pieri wrote: > Within the past few days, Debian have added another hard dependency on > systemd in sid. This time it is the Xorg server which is no longer setuid. > In order to make this work they implemented a hard dependency on > libpam-systemd along

[Discuss] Debian adds another systemd dependency, Busybox drops it

2015-11-03 Thread Rich Pieri
Within the past few days, Debian have added another hard dependency on systemd in sid. This time it is the Xorg server which is no longer setuid. In order to make this work they implemented a hard dependency on libpam-systemd along with a bunch of other onerous restrictions. At least this time