On 11/12/2015 4:57 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote:
> Using terms like rights, freedoms, ethics and morals describes how it IS
> socialism. You are caught up in a world view where "Socialism" = bad and
> rabid capitalism = ideal. Socialism is sharing. In this country, they USED
> TO teach tha
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Rich Pieri wrote:
> On 11/11/2015 10:02 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > Uh huh. So that means that *you* have no rights to GPL'ed works
> > except for those that the authors assign under the GPL. What's sauce
> > for the goose is sauce for the gander.
>
> Correct.
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:15:23 -0500
From: Sascha Meinrath
Hi everyone,
To be clear, the FCC clearly didn't listen to the feedback that
technologists and engineers were providing and is doubl
fyi -s
Clearing the Air on Wi-Fi Software Updates
https://www.fcc.gov/blog/clearing-air-wi-fi-software-updates
by: Julius Knapp, Chief, Office of Engineering & Technology
November 12, 2015 - 12:09 PM
This week marked the closing of the reply comment period in the
Commission's radio device app
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Derek Martin
wrote:
> > I've had generally good results getting used Lenovo laptops at MIT
> flea.
> > Word is to steer clear of the newer ones that removed the mouse buttons.
>
> I agree that's annoying but you *can* attach a mouse... I've only had
> one or tw
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 02:50:22PM -0500, Bill Ricker wrote:
>
> I've had generally good results getting used Lenovo laptops at MIT flea.
> Word is to steer clear of the newer ones that removed the mouse buttons.
I agree that's annoying but you *can* attach a mouse... I've only had
one or two
I've had generally good results getting used Lenovo laptops at MIT flea.
Word is to steer clear of the newer ones that removed the mouse buttons.
Reconditioned laptops at Microcenter can be good but HP and Dell are more
likely to have problematic chipset firmware requirements than Lenovo.
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:19:27PM +, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> I'm looking for a small, light, cheap, laptop to run linux. I prefer
> either ubuntu desktop or fedora.
I think the best approach is to figure out what laptops you're
interested in buying, and then look for guides about ins
Getting a working desktop computer for $0 or close to it is possible
if you are willing to settle for an old CRT monitor or if you use it
with your TV set. Older flat panel monitors can be inexpensive but are
rarely free, though I did make an excellent find at NEAR-fest last
spring: three 17" flat
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:01:50PM -0800, Rich Braun wrote:
> He'd already decided that software should be free, and explained
> that programmers shouldn't be in it for the money.
[...]
> But I think back those 3 decades and see that RMS really meant those
> words he said to me.
I don't think an
On 11/11/2015 10:02 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
> Uh huh. So that means that *you* have no rights to GPL'ed works
> except for those that the authors assign under the GPL. What's sauce
> for the goose is sauce for the gander.
Correct. I have no rights to your works except those which you
explicitl
On 11/12/2015 12:08 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
Are you serious? Somebody's soldering in hard drives (SSD or otherwise)?
Calm down. I'm just jumping to scurrilous conclusions: everything gets
soldered in these days.
I figure Chromebooks use soldered eMMC, and a quick Googling suggests so.
Apple?
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:11:31PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > Perhaps, but you can get a lot more (except processor speed) for your
> > money. I've bought five that way since 2000, and only had reliability
> > problems with one.
>
> U sure? I can go to Costco right now
Soldered-on memory is, in fact, something that embedded systems do all the
time. For large enough standardized volumes of cheap laptops, it is
perfectly reasonable to do so.
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:0
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:08:21PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:36:25 -0500
> Kent Borg wrote:
>
>
> > - SD cards are not terribly fast nor reliable--but how much should
> > I trust random "SSD"s that come with soldered in notebooks these
> > days?
>
> Are you serious? S
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:11:31 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:21:38 -0500
> Robert Krawitz wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:18:51 -0500, Kent Borg wrote:
>> > On 11/12/2015 09:17 AM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
>> >> Another option is to buy a used laptop on eBay.
>> >
>> > Isn't buy
The tiny eMMC drives in Chromebooks are usually soldered on. There are
not a lot of systems yet with soldered-down larger SSDs, but the new
ultralight MacBook is one.
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:36:25 -0500
> Kent Borg wrote:
>
>
>> - SD cards a
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:21:38 -0500
Robert Krawitz wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:18:51 -0500, Kent Borg wrote:
> > On 11/12/2015 09:17 AM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
> >> Another option is to buy a used laptop on eBay.
> >
> > Isn't buying a used laptop a bit like buying a used sports car? Each
> >
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:36:25 -0500
Kent Borg wrote:
> - SD cards are not terribly fast nor reliable--but how much should
> I trust random "SSD"s that come with soldered in notebooks these
> days?
Are you serious? Somebody's soldering in hard drives (SSD or
otherwise)? Who is doing this? How
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
wrote:
> If you want to run Linux on a Chromebook, Crouton is usually an easier
> solution than Chrubuntu. Crouton runs a Linux user space in parallel
> with Chrome OS using the Chrome OS kernel, so there are usually no
> problems with hardw
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Kent Borg wrote:
> On 11/12/2015 07:19 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a small, light, cheap, laptop to run linux. I prefer
>> either ubuntu desktop or fedora.
>>
>
> Something that has intrigued me recently is the idea of running a fairly
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 02:11:19PM +, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> So far, what I'm inclined to do, is go to a local store such as Microcenter
> or BestBuy, ask them what their return policy is, create a "dd" image of the
> internal hard drive before first power-on, and then simply blow i
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 09:18:51AM -0500, Kent Borg wrote:
> On 11/12/2015 09:17 AM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
> >Another option is to buy a used laptop on eBay.
>
> Isn't buying a used laptop a bit like buying a used sports car? Each might
> have had a rough time in its earlier life?
>
> -kb
I've h
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 02:11:19PM +, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> So far, all the good responses seem to say, basically, pay more money. The
> system76 and zareason (and base model Dell and Lenovo) laptops start around
> $700 minimum.
>
> What I really want is exactly this:
> http://www
I ran used dell Latitude laptop for years with ubuntu. It worked
flawlessly from initial install on (think Ubuntu 6.whatever). I finally
got tired of the Ubuntu bloat and moved to an Ubuntu derivative, Mint that
is a little lighter.
After ouliving a couple of disk drives and a 'full blown' memor
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:18:51 -0500, Kent Borg wrote:
> On 11/12/2015 09:17 AM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
>> Another option is to buy a used laptop on eBay.
>
> Isn't buying a used laptop a bit like buying a used sports car? Each
> might have had a rough time in its earlier life?
Perhaps, but you can
On 11/12/2015 09:17 AM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
Another option is to buy a used laptop on eBay.
Isn't buying a used laptop a bit like buying a used sports car? Each
might have had a rough time in its earlier life?
-kb
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On 11/12/2015 09:03 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
I have an Acer Chromebook C710. Dual core Celeron 1.1GHz, 2GB ram (one slot
populated, one slot available), 320GB hard drive, multitouch pad. It's pretty
nice. So I looked up how to install linux on it. The answer is Chrubuntu,
http://chrom
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:11:19 +, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> So far, all the good responses seem to say, basically, pay more money. The
> system76 and zareason (and base model Dell and Lenovo) laptops start around
> $700 minimum.
>
> What I really want is exactly this:
> http://www.newegg
If you want to run Linux on a Chromebook, Crouton is usually an easier
solution than Chrubuntu. Crouton runs a Linux user space in parallel
with Chrome OS using the Chrome OS kernel, so there are usually no
problems with hardware compatibility. You can switch back and forth
between the two user spa
So far, all the good responses seem to say, basically, pay more money. The
system76 and zareason (and base model Dell and Lenovo) laptops start around
$700 minimum.
What I really want is exactly this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1TS-000X-000J1
With a different OS.
A few yea
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On
> Behalf Of Kent Borg
>
> Something that has intrigued me recently is the idea of running a fairly
> standard Linux on a Chromebook. They are small and cheap, and have long
> battery life.
The issue that leads me here today is
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:19:27PM +, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> I'm looking for a small, light, cheap, laptop to run linux. I prefer either
> ubuntu desktop or fedora.
>
> I know there's a very good chance that any random linux will work fine on any
> random laptop I buy, but I certai
On 11/12/2015 07:19 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
I'm looking for a small, light, cheap, laptop to run linux. I prefer either
ubuntu desktop or fedora.
Something that has intrigued me recently is the idea of running a fairly
standard Linux on a Chromebook. They are small and cheap, and h
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:19:27PM +, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> I'm looking for a small, light, cheap, laptop to run linux. I prefer either
> ubuntu desktop or fedora.
>
> I know there's a very good chance that any random linux will work fine on any
> random laptop I buy, but I certai
On 11/11/2015 19:10, Rich Pieri wrote:
RMS has gained some notoriety but success? No.
RMS has not succeeded in his goals.
isn't this only for RMS to say ... ?
'success' is a word with many meanings, especially in this context. also
it is possible that goals change and shift as years go by.
I'm looking for a small, light, cheap, laptop to run linux. I prefer either
ubuntu desktop or fedora.
I know there's a very good chance that any random linux will work fine on any
random laptop I buy, but I certainly prefer to have some greater assurance -
ideally it's an officially supported d
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