Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-10 Thread Jerry Feldman
We had a lot of discussions when I was on the committee (years ago) about specific data types, such as dates. The IBM guy pushed very hard for storage to be generic. Part of it was also political. We did not want to trample on the language side of things. Dates were just one of these. And that remi

Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-09 Thread Bill Horne
On 1/9/2014 1:49 PM, John Abreau wrote: My biggest issue with SQL is the lack of standardization for date arithmetic. I've found over the years that date arithmetic was essential to almost all the applications I wrote that used a database back-end, and this was the one sticking point that prevent

Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-09 Thread Mike Small
John Abreau writes: > My biggest issue with SQL is the lack of standardization for date > arithmetic. I've found over the years that date arithmetic was essential to > almost all the applications I wrote that used a database back-end, and this > was the one sticking point that prevented me from c

Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-09 Thread John Abreau
My biggest issue with SQL is the lack of standardization for date arithmetic. I've found over the years that date arithmetic was essential to almost all the applications I wrote that used a database back-end, and this was the one sticking point that prevented me from completely abstracting the data

Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-08 Thread Peter (peabo) Olson
On January 8, 2014 at 2:21 PM Eric Chadbourne wrote: ... > I haven't played with the NoSQL stuff yet. Probably because I find > sql and it's super sets to be quite useful. One of you posted this a > while back. Still cracks me up. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs SELECT "opini

Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-08 Thread Jerry Feldman
First, databases are a mature technology. While there are always new things an features. it all comes down to wanting to store lots of data securely, and be able to retrieve that data quickly and logically. I once sat on the ANSI standards database committee, and I fully understand some of the thin

Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-08 Thread Eric Chadbourne
Bear 1: "I need Agile. I need the one with big charts." Bear 2: "Oh God, I think I just had an aneurysm." Ahahahha! That was great. I honestly don't know a lot about development methodologies. I just like to make stuff. So no strong opinion. Funny! On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Bill

Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-08 Thread Richard Pieri
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Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-08 Thread John Abreau
Are public roads and highways dead, with regard to feature development? Perhaps "dead" is not the best word choice. A more accurate word might be "mature". It's not a bad thing for a technology to be mature. Once it reaches that stage, it can be treated as infrastructure, and new things can be

Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-08 Thread Bill Horne
On 1/8/2014 2:21 PM, Eric Chadbourne wrote: I lurk one of the postgresql dev lists and they are constantly making new commits and there always seem to be new features being added, most of which I haven't even started playing with. But I think I hear what you're saying. It's an older technology

Re: [Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-08 Thread Eric Chadbourne
I lurk one of the postgresql dev lists and they are constantly making new commits and there always seem to be new features being added, most of which I haven't even started playing with. But I think I hear what you're saying. It's an older technology that's been pretty well explored and polished.

[Discuss] Are SQL/NoSQL databases dead?

2014-01-08 Thread markw
'm not saying they are "dead" as in no one is using them, I'm more thinking they are dead with regard to feature development. PostgreSQL and MySQL and the commercial databases just seem less "important" these days with things like MongoDB and Cassandra. Don't get me wrong, I think the NoSQL crowd