Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-02-02 Thread John Abreau
Yes, that's why I put the word "wrong" in quotes. That's basically the procedure I use. More precisely, I use the scripts for this that came bundled with OpenVPN 2.x. I keep the keys on a separate, non-networked machine at home, on an encrypted partition that I only mount when working with keys,

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-02-02 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
> From: j...@gapps.blu.org [mailto:j...@gapps.blu.org] On Behalf Of John > Abreau > > Apparently I've been doing it "wrong" all these years. I've always created my > own CA and signed my certificates with it, and I thought that's what the term > "self-signed" meant. That's the opposite of "doing

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-02-02 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
The important characteristic is whether or not the CA root private key is ever exposed to any servers or clients. For example, if you used a self-signed cert (no separate CA) on a server, that server requires the CA root private key in order to serve webpages, and if you installed that cert

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-02-01 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On > Behalf Of Tom Metro > > > Ever-so-slightly better than no encryption. > > Huh? We're talking about using a self-signed cert for IMAP access, right? > > Self-signed certs have all the same cryptographic benefits as a CA >

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-02-01 Thread John Abreau
Apparently I've been doing it "wrong" all these years. I've always created my own CA and signed my certificates with it, and I thought that's what the term "self-signed" meant. On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: > > From: Discuss

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-02-01 Thread Rich Pieri
Dovecot can be a little quirky about the location of INBOX. You can specify it with the mail_location directive in Dovecot's local.conf file. -- Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-02-01 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On > Behalf Of David Kramer > > would > it be reasonable and possible to use a self-signed cert for starters Ever-so-slightly better than no encryption. The only difference is whether or not it's possible for someone to

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-02-01 Thread Tom Metro
Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: >David Kramer wrote: >> ...would it be reasonable and possible to use a self-signed cert for >> starters... > > Ever-so-slightly better than no encryption. Huh? We're talking about using a self-signed cert for IMAP access, right? Self-signed certs have all the

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-01-31 Thread David Kramer
If I were likely to want to set up other servers, I agree some configuration management/deploy tool would make a lot of sense. I have Puppet training, etc. I'm not sure if it makes sense for one individual not getting paid for it to use it for one server. I *am* using git to record changes

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-01-31 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On > Behalf Of David Kramer > > I also complicated > things by trying to use an SSL certificate from https://letsencrypt.org > instead of self-signed, I'm a huge fan of free certs from https://startssl.com, and personally I don't

[Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-01-31 Thread David Kramer
Quick update: Just yesterday I contracted with Verizon for residential class triple play. Giving up static IP, but going from promised 16Mbps/? (actual 2Mbps/12Mbps) to promised 150Mbps/150Mbps and all told about $100+ less per month. I also got a server on Linode and set up Postfix/Dovecot.

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-01-31 Thread Nuno Sucena Almeida
On 01/31/2016 04:35 PM, David Kramer wrote: > like Dovecot wasn't showing my "inbox" from /var/mail/ I would recommend you to use Maildir instead of mbox and dovecot + sieve as LDA. regards, Nuno -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-01-31 Thread David Kramer
I thought "Inbox" was different, and even if you're using Maildir instead of mbox, incoming mail still got delivered do /var/mail/$USERNAME. So you say the problem is Postfix (or Dovecot, not even sure who is saving the mail in this arrangement) is saving to /var/mail/$USERNAME, not that

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-01-31 Thread David Kramer
I made certain to go over the itemized costs from 0-6 months, 6-12 months, and 12 months and beyond. If the costs above and beyond that are significant you can be sure I will complain. I did get the prices for the set top boxes, etc. Part of the math I did was the cost of power and

Re: [Discuss] Delivering mail to folders

2016-01-31 Thread Tom Metro
David Kramer wrote: > Quick update: Just yesterday I contracted with Verizon for residential > class triple play. I'll be curious to see what level of service you get from the residential class service. I went through the quotation process for business class FIOS, and was disappointed to see 30%