Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-25 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/25/2012 10:48 AM, Jay Kramer wrote: > The Fortran IV program that I am referring to was one of the first 3D > finite element programs. It ran on a Digital and/or Cray > supercomputer. It was back in the early 80's. It took hours and cost > thousands of dollars to perform one analysis consis

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-25 Thread Jay Kramer
The Fortran IV program that I am referring to was one of the first 3D finite element programs. It ran on a Digital and/or Cray supercomputer. It was back in the early 80's. It took hours and cost thousands of dollars to perform one analysis consisting of about 500 2D elements (I can not remember

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-24 Thread Doug
I just added 32G of memory to my phone. I wonder how many years back you need to go before that was the global amount of memory in all computers. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-24 Thread Jerry Feldman
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Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-24 Thread Jerry Natowitz
s-bounces+j.natowitz=rcn@blu.org (on behalf of Jerry Feldman >) >Subject: Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ??? >To: discuss@blu.org > >On 01/23/2012 04:55 PM, Jay Kramer wrote: >> Excuse me if this is a stupid question given the email chain. Is it >> still possible to

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-24 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/23/2012 04:55 PM, Jay Kramer wrote: > Excuse me if this is a stupid question given the email chain. Is it > still possible to compile Fortran IV? Will it run on linux? I wrote a > program in FORTRAN IV that uses overlays but other than that is straight > forward code. Strange. I have no

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-23 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012, Jay Kramer wrote: Excuse me if this is a stupid question given the email chain. Is it still possible to compile Fortran IV? Will it run on linux? I wrote a program in FORTRAN IV that uses overlays but other than that is straight forward code. You should try it. I d

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-23 Thread Jay Kramer
Excuse me if this is a stupid question given the email chain. Is it still possible to compile Fortran IV? Will it run on linux? I wrote a program in FORTRAN IV that uses overlays but other than that is straight forward code. Jay ___ Discuss mailing

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-23 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/22/2012 02:14 PM, Jack Coats wrote: > F2C would be my initial recommendation. > > Depends on which dialect of FORTRAN you are converting. > Cut my teeth on FORTRAN IV, but also had some experience > with FORTRAN II and FORTRAN 77, but mainly FORTRAN IV I have been involved in many conversions

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-23 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/22/2012 07:55 PM, d...@geer.org wrote: > I wasn't there at the right time, but if there are Open Market > alumni on this list who can speak to converting a half million > lines of Tcl to C++ now would be the time to speak up. Grrr. Why. TCL is a reasonably straightforward language, but if you

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-22 Thread dan
I wasn't there at the right time, but if there are Open Market alumni on this list who can speak to converting a half million lines of Tcl to C++ now would be the time to speak up. --dan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mai

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-22 Thread Jack Coats
I worked for a big oil company. They had put a lot of time and effort into doing RPG-II programs on a 'former generation of equipment'. PL/I was the 'new big thing', before C was around. So we wrote an RPG-II to PL/I converter in PL/I. ... It was pretty easy until one feature was found. Basical

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-22 Thread Richard Pieri
On 1/22/12 2:10 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: f2c is really good, but the C code will look mechanically generated, and not be so easy to maintain itself. You'll run into this with any machine translation. It's the nature of the beast. So, the question isn't so much "is there a FORTRAN to C tra

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-22 Thread Bill Horne
On 1/22/2012 2:02 PM, Daniel C. wrote: I was talking to an ex-co-worker last night and he said that he's having trouble finding a programmer to maintain their FORTRAN codebase. The conversation got me thinking - there must be a way to automatically change older languages (FORTRAN, etc.) into som

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-22 Thread Jack Coats
F2C would be my initial recommendation. Depends on which dialect of FORTRAN you are converting. Cut my teeth on FORTRAN IV, but also had some experience with FORTRAN II and FORTRAN 77, but mainly FORTRAN IV There are other dialects out there too. ___ Di

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-22 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Richard Pieri wrote: On Jan 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Daniel C. wrote: Does anyone know of an automated tool to do this? I checked Google and a few things came up but nothing that looked particularly helpful. There are several FORTRAN to C source converters out there. f2c

Re: [Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-22 Thread Richard Pieri
On Jan 22, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Daniel C. wrote: > > Does anyone know of an automated tool to do this? I checked Google > and a few things came up but nothing that looked particularly helpful. There are several FORTRAN to C source converters out there. f2c is one of the best, and it's open source.

[Discuss] FORTRAN -> ???

2012-01-22 Thread Daniel C.
I was talking to an ex-co-worker last night and he said that he's having trouble finding a programmer to maintain their FORTRAN codebase. The conversation got me thinking - there must be a way to automatically change older languages (FORTRAN, etc.) into something newer. At the very least you shou