Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP monopolies

2014-07-26 Thread Stephen Ronan
Slashdot discussion re: Verizon Fios customer's experience: However, his Netflix video streams were limping along at just 375kbps (0.375mbps), equivalent to 0.5 percent of the speed he's paying for. On a hunch, he decided to connect to a VPN service, which in theory should actually make

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP monopolies

2014-07-26 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Ronan Slashdot discussion re: Verizon Fios customer's experience: However, his Netflix video streams were limping along at just 375kbps (0.375mbps), equivalent to 0.5

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP monopolies

2014-07-26 Thread Richard Pieri
On 7/26/2014 10:57 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: Yup, but remember there are two possible explanations why: Neither of which are at all relevant. All Netflix traffic is encrypted but this did not prevent Comcast from intentionally degrading Netflix traffic throughput. All Netflix traffic is

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-24 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 02:25:06AM +, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Conner When we, the consumers band together and demand that our isp's not slow down our, the

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-24 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson If they broke the contract, take then to small claims court. That was 2-3 years ago, they technically didn't break the contract because they WROTE the contract

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-24 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson If they broke the contract, take then to small claims court. That was 2-3 years

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-24 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:25:40AM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote: VZ for land lines (and even FIOS) is at least somewhat a regulated monopoly. As such, they might be legally required to provide service (as long as you don't legally owe them money). The nice thing about this is that there is

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-24 Thread Tom Metro
Bill Bogstad wrote: VZ for land lines (and even FIOS) is at least somewhat a regulated monopoly. ...you could get the appropriate state regulatory agency involved on your side. My understanding is that once you get rid of your copper phone lines, the state regulatory agency is out of the

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-24 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Tom Metro tmetro+...@gmail.com wrote: Bill Bogstad wrote: VZ for land lines (and even FIOS) is at least somewhat a regulated monopoly. ...you could get the appropriate state regulatory agency involved on your side. My understanding is that once you get rid of

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-23 Thread Stuart Conner
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Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-23 Thread Joe Polcari
No. -Original Message- From: discuss-bounces+joe=polcari@blu.org [mailto:discuss-bounces+joe=polcari@blu.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Conner Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:59 PM To: discuss@blu.org Subject: Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality When we, the consumers

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-23 Thread Gregory Boyce
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Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality

2014-07-23 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Conner When we, the consumers band together and demand that our isp's not slow down our, the customer's, net activity and/or change isp's and say why we're leaving. They

[Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP monopolies

2014-07-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
Every night when I put my daughter to bed, I read her a book, or we play flashlight shadow puppets, or we watch videos such as The Duck Song, or Blackbeard, Bluebeard, Redbeard. We watch netflix, youtube, etc. Recently I noticed, that all our video streams get interrupted annoyingly

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP monopolies

2014-07-22 Thread Bill Horne
On 7/22/2014 9:10 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote: Recently I noticed, that all our video streams get interrupted annoyingly frequently. Buffering every 1-15 minutes, it's infuriating. Sometimes I can dumb down the connection, switching to CC instead of HD. Sometimes it helps. Not

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP monopolies

2014-07-22 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: ... So I got to thinking, could encryption be used to circumvent greedy ISP's systematically? If everything were encrypted and unidentifiable, then the only thing they could do would be to throttle *all* the

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP monopolies

2014-07-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey (blu) It's the same content, being delivered over the same network, only it's encrypted and hidden from FiOS's routers. There's no other explanation, simply,

Re: [Discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP monopolies

2014-07-22 Thread Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
Could be worse. In my neighborhood the reasonable choices are Comcast, Comcast, and Comcast. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) b...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Tom