Re: [Discuss] The Windows tax

2013-03-08 Thread Rich Pieri
On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:22:21 -0500 Brendan Kidwell bren...@glump.net wrote: Do we know they're really being subsidized? Or are they just cheap? We don't know in the sense that Google hasn't stated as such. Just cheap, however, isn't the determining factor. Compare. Nexus 4, made by LG, costs

Re: [Discuss] The Windows tax

2013-03-08 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 03/08/2013 08:47 AM, Rich Pieri wrote: On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:22:21 -0500 Brendan Kidwell bren...@glump.net wrote: Do we know they're really being subsidized? Or are they just cheap? We don't know in the sense that Google hasn't stated as such. Just cheap, however, isn't the determining

Re: [Discuss] The Windows tax

2013-03-08 Thread Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
The Nexus phones are probably subsidized; it's difficult to compete in the US market otherwise. I haven't seen any evidence of subsidy for the Google tablets or Chromebooks, though the company seems to be taking minimal profits on them with the expectation of making money in other ways

Re: [Discuss] The Windows tax

2013-03-08 Thread Rich Pieri
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:37:44 -0500 Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote: Price is a function of the market, not cost. (Econ 101). LG and Which is why I picked two effectively identical pieces of hardware. Identical hardware, identical manufacturing and materials cost. That leaves market as the

[Discuss] The Windows tax

2013-03-07 Thread Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
The best direct evidence I've seen yet of the size of the Windows tax. Acer sent me email today about a special offer on a netbook for $279, which appears to be exactly the same hardware as the $199 Chromebook but running Windows 8. I don't think I'd actually buy that Chromebook myself; if I were

Re: [Discuss] The Windows tax

2013-03-07 Thread Rich Pieri
That's evidence of Google subsidising the hardware in expectation of a return through the Google Play store. Compare Samsung's Galaxy-branded products with the Samsung-manufactured Nexus products. You'll see similar subsidizing from Google. -- Rich P.

Re: [Discuss] The Windows tax

2013-03-07 Thread Brendan Kidwell
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Rich Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: That's evidence of Google subsidising the hardware in expectation of a return through the Google Play store. Compare Samsung's Galaxy-branded products with the Samsung-manufactured Nexus products. You'll see similar

Re: [Discuss] The Windows tax

2013-03-07 Thread Brendan Kidwell
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Brendan Kidwell bren...@glump.net wrote: I wonder how many people buy a Chromebook and don't even look at the Google Play store before erasing the whole thing and putting a free OS on it. Really I probably should have said 'ANOTHER free OS on it'. I understand

Re: [Discuss] The Windows tax

2013-03-07 Thread Laura Conrad
Brendan == Brendan Kidwell bren...@glump.net writes: Brendan I wonder how many people buy a Chromebook and don't even look at the Brendan Google Play store before erasing the whole thing and putting a free OS Brendan on it. Linus has one, but he has been looking at Chrome OS