[Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-10 Thread Jerry Feldman
The register is not entirely the most reliable online tech web site, but I have been reading it for years. I got the tip from Dick Miller. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/us_navy_linux_drones/ By Iain Thomson in San Francisco • Get more from this author Posted in Operating Systems, 8th J

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-10 Thread Guy Gold
On Sun,Jun 10 07:33:AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/08/us_navy_linux_drones/ > > By Iain Thomson in San Francisco • Get more from this author > You know that nobody's in panic when you read this, keyword - 'Wholesale' : "After a malware attack on the Air Force

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-10 Thread Jack Coats
Somehow I don't think you are very off base. They need a 'standard OS' that they can have some belief that they can understand, without 'hidden source', and unknown, un-reviewed (by outside eyes), updates, whether they are 'security', 'update' or 'other maintenance'. As a corporate type working

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/10/2012 09:59 PM, Jack Coats wrote: > Somehow I don't think you are very off base. > > They need a 'standard OS' that they can have some > belief that they can understand, without 'hidden source', > and unknown, un-reviewed (by outside eyes), updates, > whether they are 'security', 'update'

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-11 Thread Mark Woodward
On 06/11/2012 07:40 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: On 06/10/2012 09:59 PM, Jack Coats wrote: Somehow I don't think you are very off base. They need a 'standard OS' that they can have some belief that they can understand, without 'hidden source', and unknown, un-reviewed (by outside eyes), updates,

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-11 Thread Jack Coats
> come from outside. I can't believe they don't already. Who says they haven't (with my aluminum pyramid shaped cap on) > When I hear that they > are using Windows for *anything* I just cringe. As well it should. http://diydrones.com/ -- I am guessing it would be easy to build your own given

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-11 Thread Tom Metro
Mark Woodward wrote: > ...the DOD can create its own very safe version of it. > Their job would be to acquire some form of Linux, probably debian... Hasn't the NSA already done this? We see the product of it in SELinux. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selinux Security-Enhanced Linux (SELinux) is

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-11 Thread Richard Pieri
On 6/11/2012 3:02 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Hasn't the NSA already done this? We see the product of it in SELinux. No. SELinux is not a distribution, not even internally at the NSA. Nor is it a complete security solution. The NSA describes SELinux as a good start. That said, this isn't the fi

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/11/2012 03:55 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: > o. SELinux is not a distribution, not even internally at the NSA. > Nor is it a complete security solution. The NSA describes SELinux as > a good start. > > That said, this isn't the first time that a DOD branch has invested > heavily in Linux. Rec

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 06/11/2012 03:55 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: > o. SELinux is not a distribution, not even internally at the NSA. > Nor is it a complete security solution. The NSA describes SELinux as > a good start. > > That said, this isn't the first time that a DOD branch has invested > heavily in Linux. Rec

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-11 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Richard Pieri wrote: On 6/11/2012 3:02 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Hasn't the NSA already done this? We see the product of it in SELinux. No. SELinux is not a distribution, not even internally at the NSA. Nor is it a complete security solution. The NSA describes SELinux as

Re: [Discuss] US Navy buys Linux to guide drone fleet

2012-06-11 Thread Richard Pieri
On Jun 11, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > But DoD does have at least one Linux based official distribution: True... but as Jerry pointed out it's a matter of procurement which in turn is a matter of what the contractor has written into the contract. Back when I worked at Prescien