[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

I understand you're probably frustrated with not being able to use libreoffice yet; however, I think you're demanding tone is a bit harsh on the *volunteer* developer's of libreoffice. I myself have been *very* frustrated sometimes; however, I have to remind myself that *voluntary* developers are p

Re: Re[2]: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Thanks Stuart, appreciate the thought. Tomorrow will be a better day. :) On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:25 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote: > RichardH wrote > > Either fill out a bug report, > > move this to the developer's list > > or close this thread. > > Sorry, but it does NOT belong on the dev list. A

Re: Re[2]: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

RichardH wrote > Either fill out a bug report, > move this to the developer's list > or close this thread. Sorry, but it does NOT belong on the dev list. And all needed bugs are filed... OP was informed of such some time ago on the User ML: > ... Oracle must fix the JRE, or Apple must correct

Re: Re[2]: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Sent: 3/15/2016 9:32:14 AM > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1 > > On 3/14/2016 9:51 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: >> >>> My "Fix it" comment was aimed at LibreOffice in general, not to you >>> specifically. >>> >&

Re[2]: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

t; To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: 3/15/2016 9:32:14 AM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1 On 3/14/2016 9:51 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: My "Fix it" comment was aimed at LibreOffice in general, not to you specifically. Oh, so you prefer to issue '

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 3/14/2016 9:51 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > My "Fix it" comment was aimed at LibreOffice in general, not to you > specifically. Oh, so you prefer to issue 'general purpose' commands and edicts rather than ones aimed at spoecific people. How very thoughtful. > You are one of the people who under

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-14, 4:48 PM Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 11/03/2016 18:51, Larry Gusaas a écrit : Dear Mr. Gussas, That is not a fix but a workaround. Fix it. No doubt if I had the skills to do so, I might, but I'm afraid my poor brain can only cope with installing a JDK and occasionally offerin

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Le 11/03/2016 18:51, Larry Gusaas a écrit : Dear Mr. Gussas, > That is not a fix but a workaround. Fix it. > No doubt if I had the skills to do so, I might, but I'm afraid my poor brain can only cope with installing a JDK and occasionally offering some of my time to try and answer the question

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-12, 9:28 AM Tanstaafl wrote: And every time a new bug crops up in OSX, it is on every other software developer to work around their bugs? You just don't get it. It's not a new bug. LibreOffice's database was working fine on Macs until the update to LibreOffice 5.1 made it unusable.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Larry, * Larry Gusaas wrote > LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime Environment > (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X > ver.10.11.3) > > You need to fix this bug. Can't use database without JRE. As noted in the thread LibreOffice User ML 2016-02-10 thread

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 3/11/2016 6:22 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2016-03-11, 4:11 PM Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: >>> No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice >>> on Macs with your code change. >> *I* broke it? Sorry Larry I'm just a user like you. > It

Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Hi Alexander, Alexander Ostuni wrote on 12-03-16 15:14: > Ah . the typical ... Please try not to write this to the mailing list, unless you announce it as a parody or something of course :) Otherwise it can be easily understood as unjust qualification of o people. And we try to be friendly and r

Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Ah . the typical mac user like I know them. The most important reason I well never get a mac: I don't want to become such a person... Am 12.03.2016 um 2.17 schrieb Larry Gusaas: In other word you don't give a fuck about Mac users. I am now going to recommend, on all forums and users lists I p

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 03/11/2016 11:51 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > > > On 2016-03-11, 4:18 AM Alexander Thurgood wrote: >> Le 11/03/2016 01:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit : >>> LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime >>> Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.11.3) >>> >>> You need to fix this bug.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

I have solutions for my needs. I posted so you can provide a workable product for other Mac users. LibreOffice database used to work. Now the developers have broken it. And it seems no one cares. Jeez. That is the thanks I get for pointing out problems with LibreOffice. By the way, why do peo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Thanks Bob. You're right. I wish Larry the best of luck as he seeks a better solution for his needs. Happy weekend everyone! Best, Joel On 03/11/2016 05:52 PM, Robert Boehm wrote: > Hi. I just want to say that the whole tone of this conversation was > hostile. I just hope that we can be polite

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Hi. I just want to say that the whole tone of this conversation was hostile. I just hope that we can be polite here, even in disagreement. I am not sure what axes anyone here has to grind, but none of it was helpful nor useful. Thanks. Bob On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 19:22 Joel Madero wrote: > Good

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Good luck moving forward. Hope you find open source software, at no cost to you, that have developers that will act like your employees and do exactly what you want. 13 years in the open source worldI am yet to see such a project. Warmest Regards, Joel On 03/11/2016 05:17 PM, Larry Gusaas w

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

In other word you don't give a fuck about Mac users. I am now going to recommend, on all forums and users lists I provide support on, that Mac users not use LibreOffice. Just goes to show what a bunch of a-holes LibreOffice developers are. On 2016-03-11, 6:33 PM Joel Madero wrote: All I said

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

All I said was this isn't the appropriate place to discuss w/e opinions you have. You've gotten a crystal clear answer, your responses are "sure Java has some issues but TDF has a responsibility to offer some hacky solution to work around THEIR bug." We've rejected that proposal (which is pretty ob

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-11, 5:55 PM Joel Madero wrote: In shortno. Gee. Very in-depth answer. Or do you, like some others here, not care about Mac users perceptions of LibreOffice? Since I am not on the developer list (and it is not available through Gmane, which is the only way I follow these and ot

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

In shortno. On 03/11/2016 03:49 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2016-03-11, 5:32 PM Joel Madero wrote: >> Please take this off discuss@ list, it belongs at best on dev list, QA >> list, or user listdiscuss list isn't the appropriate place. > Why??? > I am not a developer and don't follow that

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-11, 5:32 PM Joel Madero wrote: Please take this off discuss@ list, it belongs at best on dev list, QA list, or user listdiscuss list isn't the appropriate place. Why??? I am not a developer and don't follow that list. I am not asking for help. I am reporting a problem with the us

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Please take this off discuss@ list, it belongs at best on dev list, QA list, or user listdiscuss list isn't the appropriate place. You can also report a bug (no clue if you did), it will get closed as NOTOURBUG if it's not our bug. Thanks. Best, Joel On 03/11/2016 03:22 PM, Larry Gusaas wr

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-11, 4:11 PM Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice on Macs with your code change. *I* broke it? Sorry Larry I'm just a user like you. It's obvious

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Seems that from Mac users point of view, there was no bug until LibO fixed their bug and exposed the Mac bug. Wonder who the Mac users will blame? On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > > On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > > N

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice > on Macs with your code change. *I* broke it? Sorry Larry I'm just a user like you. > It worked before. Past performance is no guarantee o

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-11, 2:39 PM Tanstaafl wrote: So, you are complaining about a Mac bug here... please take it to the appropriate place (wherever you report Mac bugs)... No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice on Macs with your code change. It worked before. Any new user

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Why is this thread in the tdf-discuss list? On 3/11/2016 3:28 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > Proof??? JRE works with 5.0 and doesn't work with 5.1. That is pretty > objective proof. > LibreOffice code changed and now does not find JRE on OS X. > > In case you weren't paying attention when 5.1.0 ca

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-11, 1:30 PM Joel Madero wrote: Why? Change in LibreOffice code broke it. Nothing to do with Apple. Proof? Maybe we fixed something that just triggered a bug already in Javado you have some objective proof that this is our bug? Proof??? JRE works with 5.0 and doesn't work with

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

> > > Why? Change in LibreOffice code broke it. Nothing to do with Apple. > Proof? Maybe we fixed something that just triggered a bug already in Javado you have some objective proof that this is our bug? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-11, 12:47 PM Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/11/2016 12:51 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2016-03-11, 4:18 AM Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 11/03/2016 01:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit : LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.11.3) You n

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 3/11/2016 12:51 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2016-03-11, 4:18 AM Alexander Thurgood wrote: >> Le 11/03/2016 01:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit : >>> LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime >>> Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.11.3) >>> >>> You need to fix this bug. Can't

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

On 2016-03-11, 4:18 AM Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 11/03/2016 01:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit : LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.11.3) You need to fix this bug. Can't use database without JRE. Cf. bug 96163 https://bugs.doc

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Hi Am 11.03.16 um 10:18 schrieb Alexander Thurgood: > Install the JDK instead, it really isn't that hard. A PITA yes, but not > hard. Wow - that helps! Find it here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann -- T

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Le 11/03/2016 01:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit : > LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime > Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.11.3) > > You need to fix this bug. Can't use database without JRE. > Cf. bug 96163 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96163 A

[tdf-discuss] Re: Java still broke on LibreOffice 5.1.1

Le 11/03/2016 01:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit : Hi Larry, > LibreOffice 5.1.1 on Macs still doesn't recognize Java Runtime > Environment (JRE 1.8.0_73 & OS X ver.10.11.3) > > You need to fix this bug. Can't use database without JRE. > Install the JDK instead, it really isn't that hard. A PITA yes