Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-24 Thread Andy Hearn
On 24/06/2011, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2011-06-24 14:34, Manfred A. Reiter a écrit : >> Hi Uwe, >> >> Ich bin z.Zt. in Urlaub, melde mich danach. ;-) ... Sollten uns dann >> persönlich sehen. >> >> LG >> >> ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos >> Am 24.06.2011 15:40 schrieb "Uwe Altman

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-24 14:34, Manfred A. Reiter a écrit : Hi Uwe, Ich bin z.Zt. in Urlaub, melde mich danach. ;-) ... Sollten uns dann persönlich sehen. LG ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos Am 24.06.2011 15:40 schrieb "Uwe Altmann": Translated: Manfred is letting us know that he is o

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-24 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi Uwe, Ich bin z.Zt. in Urlaub, melde mich danach. ;-) ... Sollten uns dann persönlich sehen. LG ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos Am 24.06.2011 15:40 schrieb "Uwe Altmann" : > Hi Ian > > Am 22.06.11 17:01, schrieb Ian Lynch: >>> On 6/22/11 1:40 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: > >> ...The

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-24 Thread Ian Lynch
On 24 June 2011 14:39, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Hi Ian > > Am 22.06.11 17:01, schrieb Ian Lynch: > >> On 6/22/11 1:40 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: > > > ...The OpenOffice project application was submitted through OpenSaar in > > Germany. I wrote it but we thought it better to go through a different > > partn

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-24 Thread Ian Lynch
On 23 June 2011 12:09, Goran Rakic wrote: > У чет, 23. 06 2011. у 10:41 +0100, Ian Lynch пише: > > All it needs to do is have a set of criteria or even a simple > > contractual statement that the partner company providing services on > > behalf of the community will uphold community principles an

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-24 Thread Uwe Altmann
Hi Ian Am 22.06.11 17:01, schrieb Ian Lynch: >> On 6/22/11 1:40 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: > ...The OpenOffice project application was submitted through OpenSaar in > Germany. I wrote it but we thought it better to go through a different > partner. Could you provide some more Information on this for

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-23 Thread Goran Rakic
У чет, 23. 06 2011. у 10:41 +0100, Ian Lynch пише: > All it needs to do is have a set of criteria or even a simple > contractual statement that the partner company providing services on > behalf of the community will uphold community principles and not bring > it into disrepute. Why the such cont

RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-23 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, I don't think the TDF Certification is meant to cover end users. It's meant to cover professionnal service providers providing services to customers/users. I believe such a certification is an opportunity to advance TDF's Sustainability and foster a business ecosystem around it. I think that

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-23 Thread Carlo Strata
Il 22/06/2011 00:23, Italo Vignoli ha scritto: The document is on the wiki. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDFCertification This might become a huge project, and a new business model for free software on the desktop. A challenge for the entire community, and one of the reasons for having

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-23 Thread Ian Lynch
On 23 June 2011 03:27, Goran Rakic wrote: > Hi all, > > I believe that TDF should not do any kind of end-user certification. > Maybe you are right that TDF shouldn't do it itself but I don't think that is the same as not having an interest in it. I have spent 6 years researching and building th

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Goran Rakic
Hi all, I believe that TDF should not do any kind of end-user certification. Instead, I am more in line with a certification ecosystem focused on corporate and individual partners that provide value added services. IANAL, but as I am reading trademark policy correctly nothing stops a third-par

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Ian Lynch
On 22 June 2011 21:36, Cor Nouws wrote: > drew wrote (22-06-11 21:48) > > > The first article is out and 2 comments from non-community members: >> >> http://lwn.net/Articles/**448768/ >> > > Comment worthy to consider: costs of certification must not be a barrie

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 06/22/2011 10:36 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Comment worthy to consider: costs of certification must not be a barrier for the not so large companies. On the other hand: I do not see signs / wishes for that in the current draft. I'm replying now. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Cor Nouws
drew wrote (22-06-11 21:48) The first article is out and 2 comments from non-community members: http://lwn.net/Articles/448768/ Comment worthy to consider: costs of certification must not be a barrier for the not so large companies. On the other hand: I do not see signs / wishes for that in

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 00:23 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote: > The document is on the wiki. > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDFCertification > > This might become a huge project, and a new business model for free > software on the desktop. A challenge for the entire community, and one > of th

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Robert Derman
Ian Lynch wrote: On 22 June 2011 11:11, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 6/22/11 9:38 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: I have added some comments on the Discussion page. If you think it is better, I'll be glad to bring the items on this list. I think both ways are OK. I am collecting all email

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Ian Lynch
On 22 June 2011 15:24, Italo Vignoli wrote: > On 6/22/11 1:40 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: > > Ah, I just edited it! Sorry if that makes things more difficult. Feel free >> to delete anything you don't like! >> > > No problem, I have printed a comparison of the two versions, but it looks > like you just

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 6/22/11 1:40 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: Ah, I just edited it! Sorry if that makes things more difficult. Feel free to delete anything you don't like! No problem, I have printed a comparison of the two versions, but it looks like you just improved the contents quite a lot. I am keen about unders

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Ian Lynch
On 22 June 2011 11:11, Italo Vignoli wrote: > On 6/22/11 9:38 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: > > I have added some comments on the Discussion page. >> If you think it is better, I'll be glad to bring the items on this list. >> > > I think both ways are OK. > > I am collecting all emails on the subject, an

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 6/22/11 9:38 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: I have added some comments on the Discussion page. If you think it is better, I'll be glad to bring the items on this list. I think both ways are OK. I am collecting all emails on the subject, and I will consolidate every bit on the wiki page during the w

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Thanks a lot Italo! I propose discussion on discuss@documentfoundation.org only, and will post there in a minute. Cor Italo Vignoli wrote (22-06-11 00:23) The document is on the wiki. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDFCertification This might become a huge project, and a new business m

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Italo, Italo Vignoli wrote (22-06-11 00:23) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDFCertification Everyone is warmly invited to comment and provide suggestions. I have added some comments on the Discussion page. If you think it is better, I'll be glad to bring the items on this list. Cheers

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Thanks a lot Italo! I propose discussion on discuss@documentfoundation.org only, and will post there in a minute. Cor Italo Vignoli wrote (22-06-11 00:23) The document is on the wiki. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDFCertification This might become a huge project, and a new business m

Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-21 Thread Klaibson Ribeiro
Hi. Great idea. This only strong the LibreOffice and Free Software. Good week. On 21 June 2011 19:23, Italo Vignoli wrote: > The document is on the wiki. > > http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**TDFCertification > > This might become a hug

[tdf-discuss] TDF Certification

2011-06-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
The document is on the wiki. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDFCertification This might become a huge project, and a new business model for free software on the desktop. A challenge for the entire community, and one of the reasons for having an independent foundation and not a house for t