Hi Pedro and Charles et al
Le 2011-06-26 17:21, plino a écrit :
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
But let me ask it
again: why should it not be the right file format for LibreOffice?
Fonts embedding cannot be the only one feature that will help us break
the dominant vendor's monopoly, can it?
Because
Hello Pedro,
Le Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:21:25 -0700 (PDT),
plino pedl...@gmail.com a écrit :
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
But let me ask it
again: why should it not be the right file format for LibreOffice?
Fonts embedding cannot be the only one feature that will help us
break the
Il 26/06/2011 23:21, plino ha scritto:
[...]
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
If you want absolute layout fidelity use PDF. That's the reason it's
been designed, not ODF.
PDF is used for keeping printing fidelity. It's not an editable format.
OOo, LibO, Symphony, Word, Abiword, Koffice and so on
Hi Davide,
2011/6/27 Davide Dozza dav...@flossconsulting.it:
Il 26/06/2011 23:21, plino ha scritto:
[...]
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
If you want absolute layout fidelity use PDF. That's the reason it's
been designed, not ODF.
PDF is used for keeping printing fidelity. It's not an editable
Hi Jesper,
Il 27/06/2011 10:49, Jesper Lund Stocholm ha scritto:
Hi Davide,
2011/6/27 Davide Dozza dav...@flossconsulting.it:
Il 26/06/2011 23:21, plino ha scritto:
[...]
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
If you want absolute layout fidelity use PDF. That's the reason it's
been designed, not
Hi Davide,
2011/6/27 Davide Dozza dav...@flossconsulting.it:
I've been working on OOo migrations since 2003. Especially for PA. I
think I'm not detached from the real world ;-)
:o)
One thing it's what people wish, another what the law requires and yet
another is what technology
+1
Less words, more work.
El 27/06/11 7:07, Keith Curtis escribió:
In order to succeed, a mass movement must develop at the earliest
moment a compact corporate organization and a capacity to integrate
all comers.
—Eric Hoffer, American philosopher
This discussion is interesting but it
Le 2011-06-25 11:36, aqualung a écrit :
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
3. There are other ways to make fonts available in the meantime, although
not so straightforward as embedded fonts, they also don't make the
document bigger.
A similar discussion took place in March and I
Le Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:30:07 -0700 (PDT),
plino pedl...@gmail.com a écrit :
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
So are you saying your word documents embed fonts on a daily basis?
I've never seen any similar documents. You get the impression of
that -maybe- because on a windows to windows
Okay, since you're in fingepointing mode, it is indeed my mistake to think
that fonts could not be embedded in MSO formats. I do maintain that very few
people know about this, and that by rule they're not included. Now, as for
humility, claiming in an assured and definitive way that ODF will lose
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Now, as for humility, claiming in an assured and definitive way that ODF
will lose if it
does not embed fonts is not exactly humble either.
I didn't say that. I said that IF OASIS insists on refusing to embed fonts
in ODF (which is what you also peremptorily
Le Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:41:07 -0700 (PDT),
plino pedl...@gmail.com a écrit :
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Now, as for humility, claiming in an assured and definitive way
that ODF will lose if it
does not embed fonts is not exactly humble either.
I didn't say that. I said that IF OASIS
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Le Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:41:07 -0700 (PDT),
plino pedl...@gmail.com a écrit :
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Now, as for humility, claiming in an assured and definitive way
that ODF will lose if it
does not embed fonts is not exactly humble either.
I didn't
Hi.
On 2011-06-27 14:17, Robert Derman wrote:
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Le Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:41:07 -0700 (PDT),
plino pedl...@gmail.com a écrit :
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Now, as for humility, claiming in an assured and definitive way
that ODF will lose if it
does not embed fonts
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Steve Edmonds
steve.edmo...@ptglobal.comwrote:
The better solution is to include the fonts required in the odt file
just for LO use (like MS, and 2 previously mentioned word processors).
That is another solution, but not necessarily a better solution. I think
In order to succeed, a mass movement must develop at the earliest
moment a compact corporate organization and a capacity to integrate
all comers.
—Eric Hoffer, American philosopher
This discussion is interesting but it reminds me of people
re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Or, perhaps a
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 01:25:47 -0700 (PDT)
plino pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
In any case, if LibreOffice's goal is to be a suite that stands
behind the ODF format then it should review what it promises. If it
can't embed fonts, it can never be a replacement for MS Office.
Does MS Office embed
У суб, 25. 06 2011. у 12:34 +0200, Manfred Usselmann пише:
Does MS Office embed fonts?
It is a rarely used option, disabled by default.
To use it not breaking copyright law, you need to have a properly
licensed font. If you are using non-free font, usually you are not
allowed to redistribute
Le Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:34:29 +0200,
Manfred Usselmann usselman...@icg-online.de a écrit :
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 01:25:47 -0700 (PDT)
plino pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
In any case, if LibreOffice's goal is to be a suite that stands
behind the ODF format then it should review what it promises.
Le Sat, 25 Jun 2011 08:01:26 -0700 (PDT),
plino pedl...@gmail.com a écrit :
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
No it doesn't.
Of course it does. Maybe you don't use it or don't know how to do
it. But don't say it doesn't.
So are you saying your word documents embed fonts on a daily basis?
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Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
4. It is incorrect to presume that Font Embedding will not be in ODF 1.3
Reader and if other groups were to
support this new option, then it may pass?
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Off hand, I would say that embedding a font is not just for readers to
use. I would say that there must then be support for LO to fully use
that in the editor for viewing, editing, printing, and generating other
file
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