Hello Aqualung,
2011/4/17 aqualung
> See, I learned about this "forum" (it isn't really a forum, it's something
> concocted out of mailing lists to sort of resemble a real forum) by
> accident
> one month ago, from a
> http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/03/17/flattr-us/ blog comment by
> Fl
Le Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:26:23 -0700 (PDT),
aqualung a écrit :
>
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> >
> > But there are existing LibreOffice and OpenOffice forums. I still
> > don't get
> > the point.
> Why aren't the users of LibreOffice being told about them?
>
> www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ is the
Hi aqualung, *,
aqualung schrieb:
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>> But there are existing LibreOffice and OpenOffice forums. I still
>> don't get the point.
> Why aren't the users of LibreOffice being told about them?
Whom do You accuse here?
> www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ is the Help page. Let'
Aqualung already listed the content of the get-help page and the lack
of any reference to existing forums and that is my main point too
(don't worry, I'll not talk about socialism nor capitalism... ;) ).
I'll not quote anyone in particular here, so let's see if I can make
the whole idea more clear
On 17/04/2011 22:33, RGB ES wrote:
Aqualung already listed the content of the get-help page and the lack
of any reference to existing forums and that is my main point too
(don't worry, I'll not talk about socialism nor capitalism... ;) ).
I'll not quote anyone in particular here, so let's see if
2011/4/17 sophie :
> On 17/04/2011 22:33, RGB ES wrote:
>>
>> Aqualung already listed the content of the get-help page and the lack
>> of any reference to existing forums and that is my main point too
>> (don't worry, I'll not talk about socialism nor capitalism... ;) ).
>> I'll not quote anyone in
Hi aqualung, *,
aqualung schrieb:
[..]
> Anyway, I'm glad that people are responding. I guess it proves the
> adage, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease"
> Tell you what, give me the keys to that page and I'll fix it for ya.
Do You have an account on the CMS?
If not, someone might have the lin
Well, even if I'd said that the ancient forums vs mailing lists war
was not the point but *what people use*, the forums vs. mailing lists
useless fight came again...
At first I was tempted to refer how the English forums have near 200
new message each day and talk about the madness it would be to r
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 21:05 -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> On 2011/04/17 8:29 PM Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Hello aqualung,
> >
> > Am 2011-04-17 11:26:23, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> >> The http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ should be at or near the
> >> top.
> > WHY? I think the
>From my perspective, there are two major OpenOffice.org forums, and if you
ask me, right now, neither are very good alternatives.
The first is http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum. While it is a
community forum, it was set up back in 2007 on (then) Sun servers, which are
currently control
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 20:15 -0400, Jason Corfman wrote:
> >From my perspective, there are two major OpenOffice.org forums, and if you
> ask me, right now, neither are very good alternatives.
>
> The first is http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum. While it is a
> community forum, it was set
>so - If you think that neither of the OO.o forums are good alternatives
>what would you suggest?
If http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum is going to be sticking
around, I'd happily suggest it, but I just don't know what Oracle will do
with it.
Jason Corfman
comput...@corfyscorner.com - w
Larry Gusaas wrote:
On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM adept techlists - kazar wrote:
Ah, OK, i just searched for "libreoffice forum" and found
http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe forums
with categories are better learning tools. Plus, even though I started
from the "en." subdomain
Larry Gusaas wrote:
On 2011/04/24 1:05 PM Andy Brown wrote:
adept techlists - kazar wrote:
On 4/24/11 2:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote:
What do you mean by "Uncategorized"? If you feel there is something
that will make the forum better I am sure that it can be looked at by
the management.
good to
Larry Gusaas wrote:
On 2011/04/24 12:43 PM Andy Brown wrote:
This comes as a surprise to me. I do not see any ads before or after I
login.
Andy
You won't see them if you have AdBlock or other ad blocking extensions
for your browser. That doesn't change the fact that there is a
commercial a
I have no issues with a forum that is commercial presumably to [b]cover
costs[/b]. As Andy says, the ads are easily blocked (in that I had no need
to take specific steps to block ads from that site).
One more advantage of forums is that sig files are restricted in length and
readers aren't subject
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:21:03PM -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM adept techlists - kazar wrote:
> >Ah, OK, i just searched for "libreoffice forum" and found
> >http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe
> >forums with categories are better learning tools. P
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:51:53PM -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> >
> You won't see them if you have AdBlock or other ad blocking
> extensions for your browser. That doesn't change the fact that there
> is a commercial aspect to the forum.
With Adlock and noscript disabled I see no ads.
>
> Larry
Hi Augistine, *,
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Augustine Souza wrote:
> I have no issues with a forum that is commercial presumably to [b]cover
> costs[/b]. As Andy says, the ads are easily blocked (in that I had no need
> to take specific steps to block ads from that site).
But the point was
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 10:44 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Hi Augistine, *,
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Augustine Souza
> wrote:
> > I have no issues with a forum that is commercial presumably to [b]cover
> > costs[/b]. As Andy says, the ads are easily blocked (in that I had no need
Hi Drew, *,
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:05 AM, drew wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 10:44 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Augustine Souza
>> wrote:
> [...]
> In general I would like to see the ads limited and focused, but out
> right banned in favor of a donat
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 12:27 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Hi Drew, *,
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:05 AM, drew wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 10:44 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Augustine Souza
> >> wrote:
> > [...]
> > In general I would like t
On 04/25/2011 05:07 AM, drew wrote:
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 12:27 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
It is the impression that the user will
get. Clicking a donate button is a voluntary choice by the user
clicking that button. Being presented/forced to view an advertisement
is not an optional thin
On 2011-04-24 11:29 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> Someone makes money any time an ad is clicked on. That is contrary to
> the spirit of using open source software.
Not that I'm arguing for or against the particular forum in question,
but... since when is making 'money contrary to the spirit of using o
On 2011-04-25 4:36 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> On 2011/04/25 2:13 PM Charles Marcus wrote:
>> Being contrary to the spirit of making money is being contrary to the
>> spirit of life itself
> Bullshit. Making money has nothing to do with the spirit of life.
No bullshit... it has everything to do wi
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On 25/04/2011 03:29, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> Someone makes money any time an ad is clicked on. That is contrary to the
> spirit of using open source software.
Open Source Software is about LIBRE.
Gratis is completely and utterly irrelevant to FLOSS.
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On 25/04/2011 08:44, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> It is OK if it has a paypal or whatever donate link to explicitly
cover the costs of running the server (but it must be clear that this
You do realize that the organization that puts up the "donation l
Hi everyone,
I am the creator of LibreOfficeForum.org. I'd just like to set a few
things straight.
1. The forum DOES have full categories, similar to the two major
OpenOffice.org forums. Please look at /forum or click on the Forums button
toward the upper left. I prefer the "Recent posts" listing
Hi, :-)
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 13:38, wrote:
> I am the creator of LibreOfficeForum.org.
I am going to post link to varous LibreOffice / OpenOffice.org support
forums on the LibreOffice website's Getting Help page, and
LibreOfficeForum.org will be listed.
Thank you for hosting a support chann
Hi Sam,
I regretfully have to inform you that I had to remove the link to the
LibreOfficeForum.org site at the request of Drew Jensen seconded by
Charles Schulz. Sorry about that. Personally, I have no issues with
your site.
I think Drew is willing to debate the matter. Maybe a solution could
be
On 4/26/11 6:10 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Including ads for companies selling Microsoft Office. I find that
offensive.
I think exactly the opposite. Given the way the ads are placed, the fact
that there are ads of companies selling MS Office qualifies the visitors
of the web site as a proper t
David Nelson wrote:
Hi Sam,
I regretfully have to inform you that I had to remove the link to the
LibreOfficeForum.org site at the request of Drew Jensen seconded by
Charles Schulz. Sorry about that. Personally, I have no issues with
your site.
I think Drew is willing to debate the matter. Mayb
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:50 PM, wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am the creator of LibreOfficeForum.org. I'd just like to set a few
> things straight.
>
> ...
> 2. Ads. Yes, we have them. They are only Adsense text ads, I do not and
> will never permit image ads or 3rd party sponsor ads. I think thi
>
>
>> David,
>
> I feel that this is wrong, not on your part as you are only following
> directions. If this is the stand that the TDF wishes to take then there is
> going to be a lot of support lost.
>
>
I really find all this discussion ridiculous, it should not be allowed to
make advertising f
On 4/26/11 8:57 PM, Andy Brown wrote:
I feel that this is wrong, not on your part as you are only following
directions. If this is the stand that the TDF wishes to take then there
is going to be a lot of support lost.
I am a member of the steering committee, but here I am speaking for
myself.
Jaime R. Garza wrote:
David,
I feel that this is wrong, not on your part as you are only following
directions. If this is the stand that the TDF wishes to take then there is
going to be a lot of support lost.
I really find all this discussion ridiculous, it should not be allowed to
make
Italo Vignoli wrote:
On 4/26/11 8:57 PM, Andy Brown wrote:
I feel that this is wrong, not on your part as you are only following
directions. If this is the stand that the TDF wishes to take then there
is going to be a lot of support lost.
I am a member of the steering committee, but here I am
Simos Xenitellis wrote:
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:50 PM, wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am the creator of LibreOfficeForum.org. I'd just like to set a few
things straight.
...
2. Ads. Yes, we have them. They are only Adsense text ads, I do not and
will never permit image ads or 3rd party sponsor a
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:13 AM, toki wrote:
> On 25/04/2011 08:44, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>
>> It is OK if it has a paypal or whatever donate link to explicitly
> cover the costs of running the server (but it must be clear that this
>
> You do realize that the organization that puts up the "d
Hi again,
Thanks to everyone who has expressed a balanced, objective opinion about
this.
I don't want to spend a lot time here arguing about ads. I understand that
it's a sensitive subject, I'm sorry that some people disagree, and I
respect their opinions. But I would like to mention that I don't
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 07:13, wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Thanks to everyone who has expressed a balanced, objective opinion about
> this.
>
> I don't want to spend a lot time here arguing about ads. I understand that
> it's a sensitive subject, I'm sorry that some people disagree, and I
> respect th
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:13 AM, wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Thanks to everyone who has expressed a balanced, objective opinion about
> this.
>
> I don't want to spend a lot time here arguing about ads. I understand that
> it's a sensitive subject, I'm sorry that some people disagree, and I
> respect
On Apr 26, 2011, at 18:57 , David Nelson wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>
> I regretfully have to inform you that I had to remove the link to the
> LibreOfficeForum.org site at the request of Drew Jensen seconded by
> Charles Schulz. Sorry about that. Personally, I have no issues with
> your site.
>
> I thin
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 17:55 +0200, James Wilde wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2011, at 18:57 , David Nelson wrote:
>
> > Hi Sam,
> >
> > I regretfully have to inform you that I had to remove the link to the
> > LibreOfficeForum.org site at the request of Drew Jensen seconded by
> > Charles Schulz. Sorry abo
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On 28/04/11 12:40 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
>
> How about the issue that I mentioned earlier?
>
> At http://www.sitedossier.com/ip/174.121.218.38 it shows that there
> are 858 websites hosted at the same dedicated server as
> LibreOfficeForum.org.
On 04/26/2011 09:57 AM, David Nelson wrote:
Hi Sam,
I regretfully have to inform you that I had to remove the link to the
LibreOfficeForum.org site at the request of Drew Jensen seconded by
Charles Schulz.
+1
I appreciate the effort Sam has made to create libreofficeforum.org.
Like Sam, I fe
>>How about the issue that I mentioned earlier?
>>
>>At http://www.sitedossier.com/ip/174.121.218.38 it
>>shows that there are 858 websites hosted at the
>>same dedicated server as LibreOfficeForum.org.
Hi again,
Yes, I am using a shared hosting platform. I never claimed otherwise. I
have used Do
Thanks Drew, that's good enough for me.
On Apr 27, 2011, at 18:12 , drew wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 17:55 +0200, James Wilde wrote:
>> On Apr 26, 2011, at 18:57 , David Nelson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sam,
>>>
>>> I regretfully have to inform you that I had to remove the link to the
>>> LibreOffice
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:28 AM, wrote:
>>>How about the issue that I mentioned earlier?
>>>
>>>At http://www.sitedossier.com/ip/174.121.218.38 it
>>>shows that there are 858 websites hosted at the
>>>same dedicated server as LibreOfficeForum.org.
>
> Hi again,
>
> Yes, I am using a shared hostin
On 04/18/2011 03:11 PM, RGB ES wrote:
Well, even if I'd said that the ancient forums vs mailing lists war
was not the point but *what people use*, the forums vs. mailing lists
useless fight came again...
At first I was tempted to refer how the English forums have near 200
new message each day and
> From: e-letter [mailto:inp...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:34 PM
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
>
> What's wrong with reading mailing list messages in digest
> mode and going to the searchable archive as and when appropriate.
B
Hi Pieter, *,
Pieter E. Zanstra schrieb:
> From: e-letter [mailto:inp...@gmail.com]
>> What's wrong with reading mailing list messages in digest
>> mode and going to the searchable archive as and when appropriate.
> Because people never keep focus in email, texting and twitter. Those
> are the w
On 29 April 2011 16:33, e-letter wrote:
> >As I said, I'm sure Bill Gates said leave those toy phones to Nokia, RIM
> and
> >Apple. Google seem to have been smarter. As mobile and web technologies
> take
> >over I can see much harder times ahead for anyone dependent on local
> >dependencies.
> >
On 04/29/2011 11:33 AM, e-letter wrote:
Not sure that a web forum suddenly makes the use of LO more appealing
to "non-geeks"
What's wrong with reading mailing list messages in digest mode and
going to the searchable archive as and when appropriate.
Has the been a poll on mailing list against fo
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 05:47:34PM +0200, Pieter E. Zanstra wrote:
> > From: e-letter [mailto:inp...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:34 PM
> > To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> > Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
> >
> > What's wrong with reading mailing list messages in
On 04/29/2011 05:54 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
I don't know what lists you have seen but I've seen quite a number of
looong threads with highly involved posts and equally involved replies.
IMO forums, texting, and twitter appeal to younger users with their
shorter attention spans.
Also, the qual
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On 29/04/2011 16:03, Ian Lynch wrote:
>> Those reliant of distant web servers without no knowledge of data security
>> employed by service providers are being naive.
> Most people are not going to worry about it if it works for them and is more
> co
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