Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-21 Thread Jens Meiert
> The question keeps coming up about how long people are willing to wait for > something to load. Is there such a thing as an acceptable load time? Guess that's all already said, but the "10 seconds rule" continues to apply anyway, and "as fast as possible, no matter what" will remain an importa

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-20 Thread Will Parker
On Apr 19, 2008, at 7:14 AM, Bruno Figueiredo wrote: > I would suggest you to put up a static version of what they're > waiting to load with a loading bar on top. That way users get a > general sense of what's to come and if it's worth it or not. Kinda > of what we did back in the days with no bro

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-20 Thread Troy Gardner
It's all about managing expectations, by default I consider 2-3 seconds of perceived waiting max, anything longer should be choose your own adventure (e.g. low res, high fi) and or using bandwidth detection to autoroute. high experience is engaging the user in a seamless narrative and or flow stat

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-19 Thread Bruno Figueiredo
I agree with Will. The mouse pointer is kind of a digital extension to your arm. I think it reflects more what users are thinking since they can understand what's hot or not by hovering the pointer on top of it. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the n

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-19 Thread Will Evans
" I'm currently working on a flash-heavy 'experiential' site, where the flash is mostly concentrated in areas of light information and entertainment rather than utility/functional sections." One thing I would caution against - and I have heard/seen this over and over to the point of annoyance, is

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-19 Thread Bruno Figueiredo
I would suggest you to put up a static version of what they're waiting to load with a loading bar on top. That way users get a general sense of what's to come and if it's worth it or not. Kinda of what we did back in the days with no broadband where we used lowres versions of the images to be loade

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-18 Thread joreel
Robert is right!! Make sure that the content is worth waiting for. Add some interactive to your site while their are waiting... Such as a simple mind games.. or a transition of images. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://ww

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-17 Thread John Romano
Try eliminating the wait altogether by using some smart load techniques. Use the downtimes where users are not downloading anything to download the next part of your application in the background. Remember that your browser caches SWFs. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-15 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
quote: 2. Make sure the user knows what s/he's waiting for so s/he can decide whether or not to do so Dont forget SWF is a streaming file format, so you can show certain parts of the content while waiting for others to load to help the user understand what it is that they are waiting for. . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-15 Thread PG
It may be a good idea to include additional content and/or interactive imagery onto the page so that even if the main content is loading, the user still has something to view while waiting. Otherwise, Leandro's comment holds true. Adding a "Skip" button gives the user(s) the option to bypass the l

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-15 Thread Itamar Medeiros
Another "trick" I usually do is to compare the loading time, how long the animation will last, in relation to how big is the flash file: -Depending on the users bandwidth, you wouldn't have to make them wait for the whole animation to be loaded before playing: you could have it play once "x" % of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-15 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
> > Does anyone have general rules of thumb to share? > 1. Make sure the content is worth waiting for 2. Make sure the user knows what s/he's waiting for so s/he can decide whether or not to do so 3. Design a loading piece that makes the wait appear shorter than it is This last one can be done in

Re: [IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-15 Thread Leandro Alves
First of all, you need to involver the user. Nobody will wait if the content loading isn't interesting or important to them. So, make sure that the loading content is something that user needs. If possible, skip it. One option is to insert a "skip transition" button, so the user don't need to wait

[IxDA Discuss] "Acceptable" download/performance time on flash sites?

2008-04-15 Thread Janna Hicks DeVylder
Hi all, I'm currently working on a flash-heavy 'experiential' site, where the flash is mostly concentrated in areas of light information and entertainment rather than utility/functional sections. For some sections, there is some loading that needs to happen before a motion sequence/transition into