Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-24 Thread Jim Drew
On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Michelle Rajunov wrote: Hi all, The site we're doing is a contest users enter and submit photos. It requires users to be over 18, or if they are between 14 - 17 they have to go through a consent flow. I got a question from a designer about what would be better in

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-22 Thread Jack Dodd
>From a strict UX standpoint, Ortiz has it exactly right, age range options are simplest. When it comes to additional data uses, a short explanation, or "why we ask" is required (for user satisfaction) to get more specific date (mm/dd/ is simplest.) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-22 Thread mark schraad
birthdate and drivers license = all access... through in the social and it gets even scarier On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Jarrod Lombardo wrote: > Wow, I'm surprised by the number of people that consider birth date > private information. Since one's birth date and much of one's > address hist

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-22 Thread Jarrod Lombardo
Wow, I'm surprised by the number of people that consider birth date private information. Since one's birth date and much of one's address history is a matter of public record (in the US at least) there's basically ~0 risk in freely giving out your birth date. A text entry form that shows how to in

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-21 Thread Melanie St . James
I wholeheartedly agree with Sean Gerety and Michelle Larsen that birth date is private data and should not be requested, unless absolutely legally required to do so to that degree of specificity. I personally use a made up birth date for these types of requests (still in same age range). I even ta

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-21 Thread Lucia Hurtado
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-21 Thread charles Sue-Wah-Sing
I've done a variety of contest sites across many age groups. The difference between 1 and 3 fields isn't going to matter to most contest-doers. I say this because their motivation to "win" outweighs the need for "speed" of a form. On most sites you will see that you're average contest participant i

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-21 Thread Edo Amin
I remember a situation where the 18YO were the main audience and the 14YO were added at the insistence of an overzealous marketing person. From a product point of view, support the 18YO first. In any case, why not: I am ( ) 18 or older, or ( ) over 14 and my parents agree to this then unhide

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Michelle Larsen
As a user, I almost always abandon a form that requires my birth date without any apparent legal or governmental need. One's birth date is up there on the list of most-private private data, and I immediately question how and to whom my information may eventually be passed or sold. I don't necessa

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Arshad Tanveer
Just curious, but why three selections and not a date picker or text box where one can key in MM/DD/? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48490

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Michelle Rajunov
Just to clarify, the contest will last around 40-50 days, but we are looking at ways to extend site use afterwards. Also, the prize is significant, and will require real verification of user age, which is a big incentive not to lie (I suggested putting a 'notice' above the dob/age field highlightin

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Michelle Larsen
As a user, I almost always abandon a form that requires my birth date without any apparent legal or governmental need. One's birth date is up there on the list of most-private private data, and I immediately question how and to whom my information may eventually be passed or sold. I don't necessa

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Scott Baldwin
Luke W's Form Design book says to use smart defaults and that a good solution would be to ask people to explicitly select the month, day and year they were born. Also let them know why you are asking for this information. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Zareen
I think the three selctions are a waste of time if you are not planning on using the data collected for further use (e.g targetting users for another marketing campaign based on their birhdays) But if your not sure what you will do in future, its safe to collect detailed info . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Ricardo Couto
There is a difference between the two that you might use in the future.. Age: is easier to fill, faster. But.. if you need the age of this user in the future, you may do a mistake. Date: not so easy, not so faster. But.. you can calculate de age of the user forever.. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Alan Salmoni
Assuming the business and legal case stands up to accepting either, you could offer users the option to denote their age status (ie, above or below 18 years) or enter their date of birth. This would give you the chance to offer value to customers if they enter their DoB (eg, "if you want you can te

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread mbieganski
I would not consider terms of use (and legal issues) would be justifying birth date entry. In this concrete case the actual data you want to collect is not an exact BIRTH DATE but AGE RANGE. So, I'd prefer age-range choice (agree to Sean) Of course, this question should be asked at the top of th

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Eduardo Ortiz
You could design a smart UI where there are three options; I was born: [18 or more years ago today] [14 to 17 years ago today] [I'm not of age] That way the user just needs to select one option instead of facing multiple entry fields. Eduardo _

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Sean Gerety
Another thing to consider is that birth dates are specific and people may not want to give you the date because of security reasons. I'd recommend age or even age ranges. Cheers, Sean On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:06 AM, jodah jensen wrote: > All things being equal, the fewer data entry points, th

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Victor Lombardi
Date of birth can be handy in the future because you always know the person's age. If you run another contest, you can invite just those over 18, or if they're signed in you'll know what flow to take them through. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread jodah jensen
All things being equal, the fewer data entry points, the better. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48490 Welcome to the Interaction De

[IxDA Discuss] Age vs Date of Birth in sign up form

2010-01-20 Thread Michelle Rajunov
Hi all, The site we're doing is a contest users enter and submit photos. It requires users to be over 18, or if they are between 14 - 17 they have to go through a consent flow. I got a question from a designer about what would be better in terms of UX for the sign up form - asking the user for: