Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)

2009-06-16 Thread Sofia Ferres
"Always ALWAYS do for the user what you can do for them." I wouldn't say always DO, i'd rather say always give the flexibility to CHOOSE, because we never know exactly what all users want or need. Gregor, I totally agree with you. Google search is my top of mind example for this kind of behavior -

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)

2009-06-15 Thread Yohan Creemers
For choosing a default language, you could (or even should) use the language preference of the user. With each request the browser includes the language preference of the user. It's stored in the variable HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE and will look like something as "en-ca,en;q=0.8,fr-ca;q=0.5,fr;q=0.3".

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)

2009-06-11 Thread Marcus Coghlan
If you are working on an International site, I'd suggest a 3 level approach - last level optional. First level: Regional Domains. .com for (U.S) English, .co.uk for (U.K) English, .co.au for whatever we speak in Australia, .co.jp for Japanese, etc. I'd start here for the following reasons: a) I'd

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)

2009-06-11 Thread William Brall
Gregor. You are in the vast minority. ONLY using IP is dangerous. A splash page is a bad idea because you route 99% of your users to a useless page. Make it easy to switch to a new language, auto-detect, and you will be fine. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)

2009-06-11 Thread USABILITY MEDIC
As someone who recently returned from Denmark to the US I'm not loving the auto detect of IP address. I got sevved a few sites in Danish...and I don't know any Danish. I understand how valuable it can be for the tons of folks who are on their own environment but for the frequent taveller it

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)

2009-06-11 Thread Gregor Kiddie
" A few questions... Should sites auto detect IP addresses and serve default settings according to country, language?" I would say no, if only based on personal experience. Our corporate connection goes through our headquarters in France. Google in particular seems to be determined to direct me t

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)

2009-06-11 Thread Brian O'Neill
William stole my reply! ;-) And of course, write the names of the languages *in* their own language (EspaƱol, not Spanish). Not sure about everyone else, but I don't know how to read the word "English" written in Mandarin characters ;-) I would be careful (avoid?) using country flags as icons for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)

2009-06-10 Thread William Brall
Always ALWAYS do for the user what you can do for them. Auto-detect and provide -some- way to second guess the machine. But don't expect a lot of people to second guess. The best language picker is the one the user never sees. If you can't auto-detect, and you almost always can, a decent picker wo

[IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)

2009-06-10 Thread Catriona Lohan-conway
Jason, Did you read my mind I was just about to send out a similar post. My line of thought was about best practices on how users select countries and languages on global websites. A few questions... Should sites auto detect IP addresses and serve default settings according to country, langua