Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-18 Thread Paul Eisen
I am also a supporter of the guideline of graying out any fields or controls that are not available in the current context, but can be made available to the user by shifting the context. Among other reasons stated above, another advantage is that tooltips can be displayed on the inactive fields or

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-18 Thread Bella Martin
A couple of references to progressive disclosure have already been made in this thread, and I wanted to point you to some of the applied examples I've come across specifically regarding progressive disclosure and progressive reveal: The Xerox Star: A retrospective

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-17 Thread Petteri Hiisila
On 10.2.2010, at 9.01, Gabor Vida wrote: I'm opposed to the idea. I don't like forcing my users to hunt and peck around an application to learn what it does. The they only have to find it once belief feels like a crutch. An elegantly designed interface can be both immediately usable and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-15 Thread Anindita
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_meat_navigation Here's more on wikipedia that i think is the official term for hidden navigation. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49270

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-12 Thread kkalotai
I'm not sure about studies on the subject but a good deal of this depends on your users and what they expect from a ui as well as the nature of the application. What is the app and what are your users and business goals? Is this a walk up and use app or is it something users will use day in and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-12 Thread Gilbert Guerrero
It's not quite research, but John Maeda has a great book The Laws of Simplicity where he discusses this in the first law, Reduce. He has an acronym for accomplishing this, SHE: Shrink, Hide, Embody. So hiding functionality has a certain value in his opinion, but only if it's done thoughtfully

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-12 Thread Gabor Vida
Thanks for the link, Francis. I can finally reference Jakob Nielsen in a positive way ;) Graham, we are talking about an extras on demand approach - sort of. The difference is that the button or link that would be used to open the extras would be completely hidden and only revealed on rollover.

[IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-11 Thread Gabor Vida
A project that I am involved in has raised an interesting debate about reducing clutter in an interface. Specifically, one side believes that it is ok to completely hide some interface elements and only reveal them on rollover. I don't mean disable or dim them in a normal state and then make

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-11 Thread Francis Rowland
I don't know of a study as such, but something solid to back up your argument could be #6 in Jakob Nielsen's Ten Usability Heuristics, namely Recognition, no Recall. [ http://www.useit.com/papers/heuristic/heuristic_list.html ] I mean, if something is actually hidden, the user *might* stumble

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-11 Thread Francis Rowland
Sorry... that should have read Recognition, not Recall... with a t! :) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=49270 Welcome to the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Can anyone point me to research about hiding interface elements?

2010-02-11 Thread Graham Sear
Hi Gabor, It sounds like you're talking about an extras on demand approach. http://designinginterfaces.com/Extras_On_Demand Where you have too much to fit on one page, but they still have to be easily accessible. Depending on what you're hiding there are various design patterns you could use,