[IxDA Discuss] Is Auto-Scrolling Good?

2008-12-01 Thread Oleg Krupnov
It's been a classic design principle that any scrollable view should auto-scroll when an object is dragged outside or close to boundary of the view. Here's what Alan Cooper wrote in his "About Face" book: "Auto-scroll is a very important adjunct to drag-and-drop. Wherever the drop target can poss

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is Auto-Scrolling Good?

2008-12-01 Thread Diego Moya
Two quick ideas for alternatives: - a zooming user interface would remove the need to scroll. With a zoom out, both origin and target of the drag-and-drop can be viewed at the same time no matter the distance between them. This would lack accuracy in selecting the target position, though, unless so

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is Auto-Scrolling Good?

2008-12-01 Thread Mark
Hi I use the auto-scroll feature (as I understand your def.) every day and find it works well for me. In Thunderbird (email) I have quite a few folders for tracking many projects, jobs, etc. One of my subfolders itself expands well beyond the height of the screen. With auto scroll, it'

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is Auto-Scrolling Good?

2008-12-01 Thread Andreas Ringdal
A solution to the variable scroll speed might be to add a speed indicator along the "scrolling edge". When the scrolling starts, place a scrolling indicator just below the cursor, and let the users move position the mouse a little further up/down on the indicator to adjust the speed. Downside: us

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is Auto-Scrolling Good?

2008-12-01 Thread Jakub Nesetril
Oleg, well spotted - all auto-scroll implementations indeed do suck. While I can't recall any such example of the top of my head, a good alternative would be along the OS X Dock (enlarging focused icons) or some kind of loupe UI - ie. keep the whole context in one page in a scaled down version, a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is Auto-Scrolling Good?

2008-12-01 Thread Jakub Linowski
How about sticking to auto-scrolling but removing the acceleration component. Often the acceleration is what confuses people as the dragged items speed up too much and users lose control. What about two fixed scroll speeds. One could have a reasonable scroll speed assigned to the default drag ope

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is Auto-Scrolling Good?

2008-12-01 Thread Jonathan Abbett
I like the auto-zoom-out idea. Here's how to refine it: When you approach the view border, zoom out. When the user slows down/stops his mouse movement (after a delay of, say, 200 msec), zoom back in to allow precision placement. It hews to the user's mental (well, physical?) model -- look at the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is Auto-Scrolling Good?

2008-12-02 Thread david farkas
Teehan Lax has a nice exploration in the iPhone paging and incorporates zooming in their method. It probably doesnt have much application elsewhere but its an interesting approach: http://www.teehanlax.com/blog/?p=818 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Is Auto-Scrolling Good?

2008-12-03 Thread Pietro Desiato
uhm...what about a scrolling feature that,if the user accelerates, gradually zoomes out? in this way, you would scroll but at the same time you'll need to scroll less, since the more you do that the more the pages is visible in its entire height-width . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .