Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-03 Thread Mark Young
In response to Can't be done you might offer a work session where together you design how it can be done and also work out an estimate of how much work/time it would take to build it. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-03 Thread Cyrus Karbassiyoon
Hi Elle, I think what may help you is focusing on getting your developers to achieve empathy for your users. One of the best ways to do this is to involve them with your usability testing. Watching four or five people painfully struggle through a user test is extremely motivational to anyone

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-02 Thread Kevin Cornwall
My favorite aphorism that applies: Cheap, fast, good. Pick two. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=41665 Welcome to the Interaction

[IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-01 Thread Elle
Hi, I'm in a transition stage, moving from developer to business systems analyst. In this new role, I'm trying to incorporate some usability guidelines and improve user interaction. I get quite a bit of push back from the developer team members. They claim certain things cannot be done.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-01 Thread Yohan Creemers
Hi Elle, I like your approach, saying: if you (mr developer) can't do it, I will do it myself. In my experience you only have to say/prove it once or twice and professional developers will take the challenge the next time. Nothing is impossible. Some design solutions are expensive, unsecure or

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-01 Thread Bruce Esrig
The real stunner in my experience is to say ... The criteria that you are using in order to determine what to do are different from the criteria I'm using. Your criteria are based on technical insights together with your beliefs about what would work for the user. There's a whole discipline

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-01 Thread Adrian Howard
On 30 Apr 2009, at 12:49, Elle wrote: [snip] How do some of you, who have been in my situation, handle these types of resistances, so that your application can be a good and usable one? [snip] The best way I find to get out of these situations is to ask Why? - possibly several times

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-01 Thread live
Sounds like less of a technical issue, and more of a respect issue. You could be a clown transitioning to ringmaster; you could experience the same thing. Read an I/O Psychology book for understanding motivations and finding possible solutions. On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Elle wrote:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-01 Thread William Brall
There are no such things as technical limitations. That is a cop-out phrase that people use to avoid change. That said. There is such a thing as financial limitations. It is technically possible to build something JUST LIKE a google search appliance but that returns a REAL total number of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-01 Thread Jared Spool
On May 1, 2009, at 3:32 PM, William Brall wrote: There are no such things as technical limitations. That is a cop-out phrase that people use to avoid change. Huh. Someone better tell the poor electron, which has spent all of its existence trying to move faster than the speed of light and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-01 Thread Jared Spool
On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Elle wrote: How do some of you, who have been in my situation, handle these types of resistances, so that your application can be a good and usable one? Elle, What you're describing is an adversarial relationship with developers. You say it can be done. They

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Technical Limitation Arguements

2009-05-01 Thread Angel Marquez
moving from developer to business systems Internal move or company to company? I only ask because if it was internal you would know who you are dealing with. They claim certain things cannot be done.If they cannot be done and they have been employed and have say you can be absolutely certain they