Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-06-11 Thread Sachendra Yadav
I'd like to thank everyone for responding. I've compiled the responses in the blog post below http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/why-havent-video-calls-mobile-video-telephony-taken-off/ It turns out the future of video calling isn't so bleak after all, it's got a few things going for it...

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-06-03 Thread Jerome Ryckborst
Behalf Of Kristopher Kinlen Sent: June 3, 2008 2:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/06/02/nokia-vp-video-calling-not-successful-because-it-turns-you-ugly/ Nok

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-06-03 Thread Kristopher Kinlen
Considering the popularity of the evil bluetooth headset, maybe we don't like holding the phone up. Video phones would require you to not only hold the phone, but also hold it at a certain distance and in a specific area with a specific angle so as to frame your face in the camera. Maybe we will

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-06-03 Thread Peyush Agarwal
Haha now THAT was unexpected. I guess I must be in the minority who are a. pretty confident they're not ugly, and b. don't care if others disagree :) I think there is some truth to the unflattering wide-angle view one gets on cellphones at less than arm's distance, though I'm not convinced it's

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-06-03 Thread Kristopher Kinlen
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/06/02/nokia-vp-video-calling-not-successful-because-it-turns-you-ugly/ Nokia says it makes you ugly! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29620 __

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Gretchen Anderson
Gretchen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Broden Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:47 AM To: IXDA list Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off Add to these the fact that simply seeing the other person on the other end

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Greg Edwards
] On Behalf Of David Drucker Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:15 AM To: IxDA Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off The fact is, for us, Video Calls, "took off' quite some time ago, but they have a particular time, place and function: We have a weekly video confere

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread christine chastain
Personally, the issue of video calls has always been not knowing where to look. In conversation, most people tend to look at the other's face and into their eyes. With video calling, one is looking at the other person through multiple layers and for it to appear that one is making eye contact, one

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread David Drucker
The fact is, for us, Video Calls, "took off' quite some time ago, but they have a particular time, place and function: We have a weekly video conference with my parents, who are on the opposite coast from my wife and I. We have a large screen, good speakers and fast, relatively reliable In

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Johndan Johnson-Eilola
I know that *I* tend to not use the cellphone much in crowded public spaces because it seems odd to be having a private conversation in public (even without speakerphone, one half of that conversation is pretty public). But given the number of people already having one half of loud conversa

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Alexander Baxevanis
Well, that's only partly correct. It adds little to the value of communication if the quality is bad, but in most cases it has been proven that visual cues are a significant back channel of human communication. I believe the second scenario (broadcasting what you see) is actually now implemented i

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Petteri Hiisilä
Sachendra Yadav kirjoitti 30.5.2008 kello 14:55: An important thing to note is you would have to use the speakerphone to do video calls (unless you're always on BT headset or handsfree, which is not true for an overwhelming majority of people) and this compromises privacy in a big way…no one wan

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Alexander Baxevanis
No.2 below is what I mean by "greedy" in this case. All you need to do in a normal phone call is hold the phone. Whereas in a video call you constantly need to pay attention to the logistics. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Peyush Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexander, > I'm not sure I a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Nancy Broden
Add to these the fact that simply seeing the other person on the other end of the line adds very little to the communication. Now, if I were to see what you see, instead of just seeing you On May 30, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Peyush Agarwal wrote: Alexander, I'm not sure I agree with the notion

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Peyush Agarwal
Alexander, I'm not sure I agree with the notion of 'greedy interface' as the problem. I mean, it's the whole point when you do video calls, no? I think rather that there are 3 general issues with video phoning - 1. Technology - they are bandwidth heavy, and unreliable in terms of quality. Somet

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Alexander Baxevanis
Because it's a greedy mobile interface: http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2008/05/21/greedy-mobile-interfaces/ On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Sachendra Yadav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was supposed to be the next big thing but it fizzled out like MMS > > An important thing to note is you w

[IxDA Discuss] Why haven't video calls taken off

2008-05-30 Thread Sachendra Yadav
It was supposed to be the next big thing but it fizzled out like MMS An important thing to note is you would have to use the speakerphone to do video calls (unless you're always on BT headset or handsfree, which is not true for an overwhelming majority of people) and this compromises privacy in a