Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-11 Thread alexis lloyd
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Joshua Muskovitz jo...@taconic.net wrote: For the same reason your car isn't a daiquiri. I don't think this is a valid analogy. I think Kim's original questions points to the current blurring of lines that's happening between the previous dichotomy of apps vs.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-11 Thread James Page
If you go back to 1987 Byte Magazine ran a cover about the Browser been the future OS. Netscape and Sun both pushed this view that the OS was dead. Sun was pushing Java applets. Microsoft then launched a browser. Years of Anti Trust battle happened. Back in 1987 there was two challenges. Most

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-11 Thread J. Ambrose Little
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Kim Bieler kimbie...@gmail.com wrote: I hope this isn't a dumb question, but I've been thinking about how much duplication there is between the OS and the browser -- each has its own navigation, its own file structure, its own applications and plug-ins, and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-11 Thread Nasir Barday
Okay, I hope it's clear that no one is talking about a Browser BEING an Operating System. Yes, an OS handles all kinds of under-the-hood things that the Browser never even thought of. Which is why a Browser runs on top of an OS-- so it doesn't have to think about pesky things like device drivers

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-11 Thread Nasir Barday
Ambrose wrote: They might cache apps/data locally temporarily, but it's not as permanent as local apps. Google Gears took this distinction away from local apps long ago, no? - N Welcome to the Interaction Design Association

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-11 Thread J. Ambrose Little
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Nasir Barday nbarday+i...@gmail.comnbarday%2bi...@gmail.com wrote: Ambrose wrote: They might cache apps/data locally temporarily, but it's not as permanent as local apps. Google Gears took this distinction away from local apps long ago, no? --- Depends

[IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-10 Thread Kim Bieler
I hope this isn't a dumb question, but I've been thinking about how much duplication there is between the OS and the browser -- each has its own navigation, its own file structure, its own applications and plug-ins, and all that real-estate-hogging chrome! Sure, some businesses are never going to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-10 Thread Joshua Muskovitz
For the same reason your car isn't a daiquiri. An operating system is the framework in which application processes are executed in a controlled fashion. Browsers are visual applications, which take data and render it in an interactive fashion. You can build devices without operatings systems --

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-10 Thread Jack Moffett
On Sep 10, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Kim Bieler wrote: Why should I have to remember whether a file is in Google docs, or saved in Delicious, or nested somewhere on my hard drive? Well, for a rather simplistic and somewhat smug answer (my apologies), you'll be quite disappointed to find out that

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-10 Thread Nasir Barday
You'll be quite disappointed to find out that the file is in Google docs when you open y our laptop without a network connection. I'd prefer to know exactly where my file is. A design problem, the solution to which already comes via Google Gears (offline sync'd Docs and GMail!) The distinction

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Why isn\'t the OS a browser?

2009-09-10 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Sep 10, 2009, at 9:24 PM, Nasir Barday wrote: The distinction between OS and Browser is becoming unimportant. Except for the minor fact that without an OS you can't actually launch a browser. The main difference is in performance; The main difference is that the OS actually runs the