Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-29 Thread Geoff Barnes
Good point. What a strange nexus for such a thread. As for evolution's ways: whether evolution takes place in fits and starts or over thousands of years is a matter of unresolved debate. As for whether or not We (humanity, or specifically the thin IxD slice thereof) will effect evolutionary cha

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-29 Thread Jerome Ryckborst
I'm not sure that illiteracy is the problem. By the way, I'm not in the Excited States and don't understand the reference to this "canon" that kids are supposed to be able to read and comment on, as a demonstration of literacy. Things are changing. Here's an anecdotal tale: while editing a blog

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-29 Thread Peyush Agarwal
I do not subscribe to the notion of de-skilling as applied to this context. Throughout human history, tools have continued evolving, making difficult and time-consuming tasks easier and quicker. I don't see atrophy in the brain muscles or any lack of mental calisthenics at all. Nor is it evident

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-29 Thread Jeff Howard
Geoff wrote: > More frightening to me than the specific notion of > de-skilling is the dilapidation of the human mind > that will be a part of human evolution. "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, bal

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-29 Thread W Evans
My biggest fear of de-skilling comes from what I consider the wide scale if not complete functional illiteracy of children that have graduated [sic] from high school in the last 20 years. This trend is accelerating at an exponential rate such that almost every child born today will be functionally

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-29 Thread Geoff Barnes
Surely so. More frightening to me than the specific notion of de-skilling is the dilapidation of the human mind that will be a part of human evolution. On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:26:21, Jeff Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geoff wrote: > > Am I just old and paranoid? I don't think so. Left unsti

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-29 Thread Geoff Barnes
Well I agree, to an extent, with the basic thesis of deskilling. That said, what keeps me up at night these days is not deskilling, per se, but the degradation of fundamental problem solving skills, the development and maintenance of which have been for eons the cornerstone of evolution. We're

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-28 Thread Jeff Howard
Geoff wrote: > Am I just old and paranoid? I don't think so. Left unstimulated, > neural pathways go dark. I think this is a real concern for design. There's a lot to find on the topic by searching google for the keyword "de-skilling" // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-28 Thread Geoff Barnes
While the video has all the subtlety of an Old Navy TV ad from 2001 (obvious lure is the iPhone, not so much the university), the potentialities revealed are riveting - and a bit disturbing. Some of my disturbance comes from concern that, if students don't have to look at a map and learn where a r

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-28 Thread John Dailey
We're designing a "video news interface" for the iPhone. Sort of a way to do interactive TV on a small screen. Everyone on campus could watch a live stream of "local headline news." Stories are linked to meta data so an appropriate news item could call your iPhone and play itself. Think IM f

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-28 Thread Martin
This is turning into Monty Python's "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch... -- Martin Polley Technical Communicator +972 52 3864280 Not a manual typewriter, but an electric portable Smith Corona. Then again, > I seem to recall I usually

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-27 Thread Paul Trumble
Not a manual typewriter, but an electric portable Smith Corona. Then again, I seem to recall I usually wrote them out longhand. Paul On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Kim Bieler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oooh, geezer thread! > > I remember what a pain it was to type my term papers on a manual

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-27 Thread Kim Bieler
Oooh, geezer thread! I remember what a pain it was to type my term papers on a manual typewriter with two fingers and no correction ribbon. Footnotes, anyone? On Feb 27, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote: > i agree completely. .. i remember what a pain it was to transcribe all > my

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-27 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
i agree completely. .. i remember what a pain it was to transcribe all my course schedules into my old palm (yes, i was/am a nerd) ... if that type of information was available in a consistent way it would be amazing. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Jerome Ryckborst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-27 Thread Jerome Ryckborst
I watched half of the iPhone University movie, Part 1. Random thoughts: * Shooter on campus. With everyone having an iPhone -- provided by the university?! -- it no doubt gives the administration an instant channel to all students when someone goes ballistic with a gun. [Sarcasm: Who needs gu

[IxDA Discuss] iPhones on Campus

2008-02-27 Thread Rob Nero
Just found this article on AppleInsider: Apple holds big plans for 'iPhone University' on college campuses: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/27/apple_holds_big_plans_for_iphone_university_on_college_campuses.html You can follow a link from the article to this page: http://www.acu.edu/t