Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread Dave McIlhagga
Puneet: I believe you've just described the SDF format (open, based on SQL lite) that is currently in use by FDO / MapGuide. Some info from a post from Jason Birch a while back: To bring us back to the start of this post, the one item on this list that I think may get overlooked is

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread Landon Blake
Puneet, You wrote: Is this too crazy? I don't think this idea is crazy at all. In fact, I think it is a very good idea. I do have a couple of comments, which you can read below: You wrote: What if we came up with a new and improved data format -- call it Open Shapefile (extension .osh)... I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread Paul Spencer
this sounds like the SDF format, although I am not sure that SDF is open source - there is an open source implementation as part of FDO (http://fdo.osgeo.org/fdosdf/index.html ) Paul On 13-Nov-07, at 9:52 AM, P Kishor wrote: So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:42:12AM -0800, Landon Blake wrote: You wrote: that would be completely Free, single-file based (instead of the multiple .shp, .dbf, .shx, etc... Is there a problem with a multiple file format? I have tinkered with some different binary file formats, and it seems

[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread P Kishor
Thanks everyone, for responding. Here is my groundwork. The new format -- - Should be fast. SQLite is plenty fast, and anything that simply extends the Shapefile format to inject relational capabilities should be pretty fast. It should definitely be faster than a geodatabase format (such as

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread Landon Blake
Puneet, You wrote: Should be easy to transition to. By building the new format on the structure of the Shapefile format, and *in fact*, calling it open shapefiles or some such thing, we indicate from its name that the transition is not that revolutionary but is evolutionary. This, hopefully, will

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread Gary Sherman
On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:42 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote: o RDBMS style operations like SQL filtering, joins, etc. o Get past all the shapefile limitations related to the .dbf format (very restricted data types, short attribute names, lots of other limits) o Allow storing many layers in one

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread Jason Birch
Landon wrote: --- I really think you are going to run into problems using the Shapefile as part of the trademark or name for any product not sold by ESRI. I strongly recommend against this move. --- I'm not a lawyer, but I really doubt that shapefile is unique enough to be

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread P Kishor
On 11/13/07, Frank Warmerdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P Kishor wrote: So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS data. That it is open (albeit not Free) along with the deep and wide presence of ESRI's products from the beginning of the epoch, it has been widely

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread P Kishor
David, On 11/13/07, David William Bitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Part of the mission of the OSGeo Geodata committee (http://www.osgeo.org/geodata) is to promote the use of open geospatial formats. If there is a group that wants to continue pursuing the creation of a new open geodata

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format

2007-11-13 Thread David William Bitner
I have created a (now empty) space on the OSGeo wiki to start to fill in concrete details that come out of this discussion at http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Geodata_formats. Please use the wiki to put your wishlists for a new open data format, lists of existing data formats with links to their

[OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open, data format

2007-11-13 Thread Chip Mefford
From: P Kishor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 11/13/07, Frank Warmerdam

[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W - Binary Windows Installer - in development

2007-11-13 Thread Jeff McKenna
This is to announce that work has begun on what is being named the OSGeo4W installer. To keep this announcement email short, please see its Wiki page for more installer details (http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_Win32_Installer). Also, a new mailing list has been created, osgeo4w-dev (join

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo4W - Binary Windows Installer - in development

2007-11-13 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Jeff McKenna wrote: This is to announce that work has begun on what is being named the OSGeo4W installer. To keep this announcement email short, please see its Wiki page for more installer details (http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_Win32_Installer). Also, a new mailing list has been