Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [postgis-users] A bit off topic, but FOSS GIS clients...

2008-01-03 Thread Jacolin Yves
Le Thursday 03 January 2008 02:27:56 Dr. Markus Lupp, vous avez écrit : Paul Ramsey schrieb: Also, wasn't there a FOSS4G presentation about consulting as a way to further FOSS GIS development and make a living at it as well? Bit of a myth, as far as I can tell. This open source

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [postgis-users] A bit off topic, but FOSSGIS clients...

2008-01-03 Thread Miguel Montesinos
Markus Lupp said: Paul Ramsey schrieb: Also, wasn't there a FOSS4G presentation about consulting as a way to further FOSS GIS development and make a living at it as well? Bit of a myth, as far as I can tell. This open source technology wedge is still so small that the business

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Lucena, Ivan
Hi all, I am *not* going to disagree with Andrea, Gilberto, Paul, Howard or anybody else. I just want to point out a interesting open source business model that is making a big impact this days. I am talking about Xen [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen]. I keep reading news and more news

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:26:51AM -0500, Lucena, Ivan wrote: Hi all, I am *not* going to disagree with Andrea, Gilberto, Paul, Howard or anybody else. I just want to point out a interesting open source business model that is making a big impact this days. I am talking about Xen

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Paul Ramsey
Xen is one of those things where the market is SO DAMN HUGE that even the very SMALL proportion of money that an open source company can wring from the marketplace is actually non-trivial in an absolute sense. If Red Hat is only monetizing 0.01% of the Linux marketplace, that's still

[OSGeo-Discuss] summary of VGI workshop in Santa Barbara Dec 13-14, 2007

2008-01-03 Thread P Kishor
Greetings, I posted my brief summary of the recently held VGI workshop on the geowanking list, and am reposting it here as well. I hope you find this useful -- Workshop on Volunteered Geographic Information Dec 13-14, 2007 Upham Hotel, Santa Barbara, CA Approximately 30 participants. The

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Gilberto Camara wrote: For the FOSS4G effort to be fruitful and sustainable, we need a very informed and candid assessment of our business model. My personal view, based on 25 years of experience, is that government intervention is essential for the open source model to survive beyond a handful

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Landon Blake
Paul wrote: The trouble with the geospatial marketplace is that it is relatively small, so the small proportion an open source company can monetize is smaller still. I wonder how this will change as the ability to obtain spatial information improves and becomes more affordable? A few decades

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Dr. Markus Lupp
Gilberto and all, I would like to give some comments on this from the perspective of a GIS company with an Open Source business model, I hope you will find them of interest. lat/lon was founded in the year 2000 as a private company (in Germany) and had from its beginning an open source

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models

2008-01-03 Thread Landon Blake
Markus wrote: I have to say that I am a bit surprised that I got the impression (from the remarks by Paul and others) that the same is not possible in Northern America!? I'm no expert, but I think most people involved in FOSS development in America would agree that the political climate for