RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Michael, Thanks for the comments on this thread. I've had a couple of private emails expressing interest in the outcome, so I'll continue this conversation in public, rather than moving it offline. One of the problems that I have is that I understand that JPEG 2000 can be 'lossy' or 'n

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Norman Vine
Michael P. Gerlek writes: > > Someday I'd like to try and open a dialog with the OpenJP2 developers > about this topic, but last I heard they were completely > uninterested in supporting GB-sized datasets. > Michael H . Maybe the time is right :-) http://groups.google.com/group/openjp

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:26:16PM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: > Christopher - > > Let me add the "evidence" that I have found that reducing the strip size > in LZW-compressed GeoTIFFs has, not surprisingly, a VERY large effect on > read performance - about a factor of 10 in the particular cases I

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Ed McNierney
Christopher - Let me add the "evidence" that I have found that reducing the strip size in LZW-compressed GeoTIFFs has, not surprisingly, a VERY large effect on read performance - about a factor of 10 in the particular cases I used. That indicates that the data you report might not be a good 'order

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:04:59PM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: > Christopher - > > You will very likely find that using different LZW compression options > (particularly setting a small strip size) will slightly degrade compression > performance while significantly improving read time. While I t

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Ed McNierney
Christopher - You will very likely find that using different LZW compression options (particularly setting a small strip size) will slightly degrade compression performance while significantly improving read time. While I think your test data are valid, they only address one of many possible c

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 04:31:34PM -0800, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: > Yup: Kakadu is not Open Source, as per the OSI definition of the term. > The only FOSS package I know of is OpenJpeg2000 (or something like > that); unfortunately, however, it is not suitable for geo-sized imagery > last time I lo

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Yup: Kakadu is not Open Source, as per the OSI definition of the term. The only FOSS package I know of is OpenJpeg2000 (or something like that); unfortunately, however, it is not suitable for geo-sized imagery last time I looked. Not a week goes by that I do not pause, look out my window, and si

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Israel and Romanian local chapter?

2008-02-25 Thread Vasile Craciunescu
Hello Tyler, I was a little quiet in the last two months. As we already wrote on the mailing list we are very interested in creating a Romanian local chapter. I'm saying "we" as the local community gathered around http://www.geo-spatial.org. More about this topic was posted at http://wiki.osg

[OSGeo-Discuss] Israel and Romanian local chapter?

2008-02-25 Thread Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
Is anyone on this list interested in or working on local chapter work in Israel or Romania? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:27:22AM -0800, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: > Bruce- > > Again, I'm not sure how to convince you of this... JP2 is inherently > lossless just like GeoTIFF is; what arguments do you / would you find > persuaive to use GeoTIFF? (alternatively, what do you use now that you >

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 'lossless' JPEG2000

2008-02-25 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Bruce- Again, I'm not sure how to convince you of this... JP2 is inherently lossless just like GeoTIFF is; what arguments do you / would you find persuaive to use GeoTIFF? (alternatively, what do you use now that you trust?) [feel free to take this to private email, this is probably a bit eso