Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses
Hello, I've made a brief summary of this thread and sent it to the Spanish Local Chapter mailing list linking specially the mail from Cameron[1] that started the conversation. I've tried to encourage them to participate in the debate, right now we are receiving some responses, in spanish in the s

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Adrian Custer
Hey Ann, all, On 5/6/13 5:48 PM, Anne Ghisla wrote: Stephan, Adrian: is there an effective way for OSGeo to address a statement to OGC, beside the official requests for comments and our Discuss list? Thanks for your thoughts, Anne Any official statement issued by the OSGeo Board or community

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Angelos Tzotsos
Hi all, I agree with Andrea. In my opinion OGC should be building upon the WxS specifications, introducing REST and JSON with a round of new major versions. It was already tough for us to explain WxS services to end users for the last 10 years. Adding new service specifications will not help u

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Anne Ghisla
On Mon, 06 May 2013 18:24:05 +0200 Stephan Meißl wrote: > All, > > being involved in both communities I read this thread with high > interest. I agree with the issues raised by Bruce, Jeroen, Daniel, > etc. I guess my main issue is adding a competing set of standards > within OGC without proper

[OSGeo-Discuss] 2012 Annual Report Participation

2013-05-06 Thread Landon Blake
I wanted to send out a brief thank you to everyone that wrote and submitted an annual report item for last year. There is double or triple the number of report items this year when compared to last year. Needless to say, I'm running behind with all of the extra content that needs to be reviewed an

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Stephan Meißl
All, being involved in both communities I read this thread with high interest. I agree with the issues raised by Bruce, Jeroen, Daniel, etc. I guess my main issue is adding a competing set of standards within OGC without proper justification and thus weakening the overall position of OGC. cu Step

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Andrea Aime
All, I've followed this thread with interest, thanks for the insightful discussion. If I can spare my 2 cents, is that the OGC specifications are complex enough already, with differences in behavior in the various versions, that adding another set of competing standards is just going to increase c

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
The part that bothers me the most about this has to do with the big picture. I'm concerned that if we focus on this or that standard without putting it into the larger context that poor(bad?) decisions are getting made that set precedents for more bad decisions to follow. This had been touched

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
All, I'm pretty much in the same camp as Jeroen has described below. The original advertised capabilities from OGC were to develop a set of common and documented standards that could be used as interoperable building blocks. It was supposed to be a nice and easy way to say that I, (or we) as

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Daniel Morissette
I am also of the opinion that "single-vendor standards" such as KML and this GeoServices REST API are turning OGC into a rubber-stamping organization and this is not what the geospatial community needs. Don't get me wrong, it is good to see these openly published, but the publication should be

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Volker Mische
Adrian sums up the problems and the discussions that were happening really well. I fully agree with the problems that arise. I just want to add that from my perspective this isn't an anti-ESRI campaign from some OSGeo fellows, but it's against one company pushing something through the OGC that def

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Would you be concerned if the "GeoServices REST API" became an OGC standard?

2013-05-06 Thread Jeroen Ticheler
All, Having read this thread I support what has been said by Adrian, Bruce and others. If anything, acceptance of a set of standards that basically replicates what W*S standards already do will confuse customers. Maybe that is exactly what esri hopes to achieve, it definitely doesn't help our (t