Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

2014-09-17 Thread Maria Antonia Brovelli
+1 for involving charter members Maria Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano ISPRS WG IV/5 "Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications" - Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory Board Member - SIFET Scientific Commitee Mem

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

2014-09-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 17/09/2014 22:42, P Kishor ha scritto: > also in this thread) is like waking up at night to find a bunch of strangers > chatting > in your living room. > > Definitely, involving Charter Members would be a very sound and nice thing to > do. +1 I share Puneet feelings. All the best. -- Paol

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Hi Bruce, I think, this discussion is not about LocationTech vs. OSGeo, or about FOSS4G. It's all about OSGeo itself. Many people have pointed out, that we are now on the edge and we are looking where to go. If we are not sure, what we are and where are we heading, we can not clarify our positio

[OSGeo-Discuss] How to join geo4all initiative and ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS research and education labs network

2014-09-17 Thread Helena Mitasova
Thanks to all who have expressed interest in joining the geo4all initiative and ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS reserach and education labs network. As promised at FOSS4G 2014 here is more info posted to this list, to make sure it can reach all members. You can find information about the initiative on its websi

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

2014-09-17 Thread Jody Garnett
I agree it is a bit strange P Kishor: I helped organise a very small foss4g-au "unconference" in 2012 with Nathan. A couple weeks ago Rob Emanuele asked if I could help out with foss4g-na - not sure what I will be doing yet. Rob is a passionate scala developer, and it is great to see that enthusi

[OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Bruce Bannerman
IMO Hi Jeff, I don't believe that this public 'Mea Culpa' is warranted. You are a respected member of the community and are entitled to a personal view. I understood from what I read that your comments were personal. Perhaps using an 'official OSGeo email address' might make it clear when the em

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fixing FOSS4G (was: Hacking OSGeo)

2014-09-17 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Nice summary IMHO, thanks Jachym 2014-09-17 19:41 GMT+02:00 Darrell Fuhriman : > FWIW, what I want to ensure happens is that the issue of partnering with > LocationTech does not get conflated with fixing how FOSS4G is managed. > > What is clear is that things cannot continue to go on as they have,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] free software for transport planning

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Cheetham
Ricardo, The tools of which I'm aware are focused on transit planning (rather than more transportation in general) and include: * World Bank Open Transit Indicators - https://github.com/WorldBank-Transport/open-transit-indicators - this is a project Azavea is developing under contract with the W

[OSGeo-Discuss] free software for transport planning

2014-09-17 Thread Ricardo Pinho
Hi everyone, I would appreciate any reference about free software solution that covers the range of transport planning - from strategic planning to traffic engineering and simulation. What I am really looking for is an alternative to PTV Vision for a national level use case. Thank you very much

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

2014-09-17 Thread Gert-Jan van der Weijden
Hi all, I'm also sure all local chapters & charter members have a view, but after the discussion (or discussions?) over the last days it's not quite clear what's the topic anyway. is is about: - collabaration with any other organisation in general? - collaboration with LocationTech specifica

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

2014-09-17 Thread P Kishor
yup, you nailed it. In fact, if the conversation is only about FOSS4G, I couldn't give a rip. Otoh, if the conversation is about OSGeo, its nature and what it stands for, I am all ears, and I do believe many other Charter Members would also want to be included. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Jac

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

2014-09-17 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Just noting, discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo .. or LocationTech. It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

2014-09-17 Thread P Kishor
My guess is, just as I do, most Charter Members find this entire thread very alien. For us who don't go to FOSS4G, OSGeo means something completely different (here is where I disagree with an earlier email—I think it was Jo Cook—that folks know OSGeo products but not OSGeo). To suddenly hear of all

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Polling charter members

2014-09-17 Thread Steven Feldman
Before we get to the stage of polling charter members and local chapters, it would be helpful if more of the charter membership and local chapters chipped in with their opinions. Many seem to have been very quiet, i am sure they must have a view __ Steven On 17 Sep 2014, at 20:00, conferen

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Massimiliano Cannata
Puneet, I agree with you, this is an "hot" decision that cannot be taken by a small group of people without at least have heard about what the *OSGeo community* think about. In this tread I have learnt a lot on LocationTech and on motivation that pushed some OSGeo members to embrace also LocationT

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Jeroen Ticheler
Hi Jachym, Andrew and others, Most of what you wrote below Jachym sounds good. I've written an email [1] about the FOSS4G trademark to the board and conference list and feel that the way the FOSS4G NA 2015 now uses the FOSS4G trademark, with OSGeo and LocationTech as "equal" collaborators, does

[OSGeo-Discuss] Fixing FOSS4G (was: Hacking OSGeo)

2014-09-17 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
FWIW, what I want to ensure happens is that the issue of partnering with LocationTech does not get conflated with fixing how FOSS4G is managed. What is clear is that things cannot continue to go on as they have, especially if OSGeo is serious about expanding FOSS4G, both in size and scope. I bel

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread P Kishor
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote: > I am also pondering of suggesting to the Board, later when we get to that > point, of possibly querying the Charter Members, in a "referendum" of > sorts. Not sure, I'm just speaking openly here. Please do. As I gently indicated in an ea

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi Bart, Sort of off topic, the timing was good for me to get into my truck and drive 5 hours by myself this morning at 5am, to a meeting in cute small island province, Prince Edward Island (http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/46.25739/-63.13748). In other words, I had lots of time to think

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2015 OSGeo Code Sprint in Philadelphia - let us know when

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Cheetham
And in case you missed it earlier in the thread, the Doodle poll is at http://doodle.com/6krhmqpimxx4pdni Robert On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Robert Cheetham wrote: > OSGeo Folks, > > I had announced yesterday that the code sprint would be held Mar 2 - 6, > based on the previously publish

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
All, So, I've been following this (these) threads for a while now. I like Darrell's thoughts on moving forward with his " FOSS4G Organizing" positing, and this seems like an obvious direction to follow up on. An additional thought here, does it make any sense to think of LocationTech as a Ma

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2015 OSGeo Code Sprint in Philadelphia - let us know when

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Cheetham
OSGeo Folks, I had announced yesterday that the code sprint would be held Mar 2 - 6, based on the previously published Doodle poll. However, some folks noted that the FOSS4G-NA conference is now scheduled for the following week (Mar 9 - 13). For some people, this might be an opportunity to make

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Andrew Ross
Bob, For what it's worth, and it's the same at OSGeo of course, LocationTech & the Eclipse Foundation want projects to want to join. It's always optional. It is unlikely for the foreseeable future that OSGeo would invest in the specialized staff, infrastructure, and such to do the kind of ri

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
All, How would the separation of projects occur between those in OSGeo already vs those wanting to be LocationTech certified as well. I would imagine that some would not feel like they need to be certified by both. What happens in this case? Also, what are the longer term differences between

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Guys, several points: as Bart pointed out, the discussion still continues. I personally am not sure, whether this decision should go to board itself, whether conference committee should be involved in the decision as well. I welcome Andrew's "motions", since that is something, we can vote about

[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G as revenue stream for OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Dirk Frigne
To act on the suggestion of Gert-Jan, I want to start a new thread about the discussion about collaboration of FOSS4G. I made the topic clear: " FOSS4G as revenue stream for OSGeo" First I want to mention that the past FOSS4G event in Portland was well organized. I was not personally there, but t

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Gert-Jan van der Weijden
Jeff, Andrew, Bart, Jürgen, All, My 2 cents: - Give this discussion a fresh restart under a new threadname, since "hacking OSGeo" is a bit biased ;-) - Especially to Jeff: try to make distinction between your personal opinion and your role as OSGeo president - In the Netherlands we have s

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Andrew Ross
Dear Bart, Jürgen, All Here's a few thoughts that are probably a good place to start. We started to get into them at Saturday's board meeting. Feedback here is very welcome. 1) The FOSS4G North America 2015 site mentions the event is a collaborative event by OSG

[OSGeo-Discuss] ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS Award for Open Geospatial Science

2014-09-17 Thread Suchith Anand
Dear All, The Big 3 of the Geospatial World (the International Cartographic Association , Open Source Geospatial Foundation and International Society for Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing) have joined forces in our common aim to make geospatial education and opportunities available for all.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Bart van den Eijnden
Hi Jurgen, some of the discussions started on the conference e-mail list a while back (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/) but only recently this discussion moved to the discuss list. That might explain some of the confusion. I don’t think there is any information which is not out

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Bart, On Wed, 17. Sep 2014 at 09:49:51 +0200, Bart van den Eijnden wrote: > can you please at least give the board a chance to form an opinion on this? > If it ever gets to the point that a motion is on the table and you have not > been persuaded, you can always vote -1. Did an essential piece

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-17 Thread Bart van den Eijnden
Hey Jeff, can you please at least give the board a chance to form an opinion on this? If it ever gets to the point that a motion is on the table and you have not been persuaded, you can always vote -1. I feel you’re prohibiting the discussions from happening at the board level at all with this