Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Diversity in FOSS4G

2018-08-11 Thread Jonathan Moules
Let me tell you something: having legal rights doesn't mean you have equal opportunities. Those studies are falling into the wrong conclusions probably because bias of the researchers. Apologies, but that's a general dismissal of a peer-reviewed scientific paper, seemingly because you don't

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Diversity in FOSS4G

2018-08-11 Thread María Arias de Reyna
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Moules wrote: >> This is a common mistake. If you aim for the already declining percentage >> of women, you will not get far. You have to aim for the percentage of >> population. The fact that only 37% of our industry is female is itself a >> problem we

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Diversity in FOSS4G

2018-08-11 Thread Jonathan Moules
> This is a common mistake. If you aim for the already declining percentage of women, you will not get far. You have to aim for the percentage of population. The fact that only 37% of our industry is female is itself a problem we have to address. ... > But going back to the topic of this

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Diversity in FOSS4G

2018-08-11 Thread María Arias de Reyna
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Moules wrote: >> Once we have a 50% of speakers that are women (even 40%), we can start >> saying that having a full keynoter line of women speakers is no diversity. > > At the risk of asking a question that I know isn't meant to be asked - why > 50%? Or

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Diversity in FOSS4G

2018-08-11 Thread Jonathan Moules
>  Once we have a 50% of speakers that are women (even 40%), we can start saying that having a full keynoter line of women speakers is no diversity. At the risk of asking a question that I know isn't meant to be asked - why 50%? Or "even 40%"? Surely the % should be around the same as the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Diversity in FOSS4G

2018-08-11 Thread María Arias de Reyna
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Moules wrote: > Glass-half-full observation: In a topic talking about the FOSS4G Asia > diversity, no-one has commented on the commendable range of racial diversity > in those keynotes. > > As to gender in keynotes, a Devils Advocate would point out

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Diversity in FOSS4G

2018-08-11 Thread Jonathan Moules
Glass-half-full observation: In a topic talking about the FOSS4G Asia diversity, no-one has commented on the commendable range of racial diversity in those keynotes. As to gender in keynotes, a Devils Advocate would point out there is no gender diversity in the 2018 Dar es Salaam keynote

[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 2.5.0beta2 release

2018-08-11 Thread Regina Obe
The PostGIS Development team is pleased to release PostGIS 2.5.0beta2 Source: https://downloads.osgeo.org/postgis/source/postgis-2.5.0beta2.tar.gz Docs: PDF - https://downloads.osgeo.org/postgis/docs/postgis-2.5.0beta2.pdf HTML -