Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-11-06 Thread María Arias de Reyna
m. > Cheers > Ravi Kumar > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Frank Warmerdam <warmer...@pobox.com> > Date: Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:27 AM > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this? > To: Helmut Kudrnovsky <

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-30 Thread Jody Garnett
Gotcha, that is indeed a trouble, the cro role is tough. I love this positive conversation - wish we were doing it the week before elections to alleviate concern. This is one of those things were a link (or the full text) may be required for future emails. On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:59 AM Sara

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-30 Thread Sara Safavi
> I encourage everyone to look at the larger page, some of this is covered under guidence for candidate selection. This is good, but as a reminder: the reason I brought this up to discuss-list originally was to give voice to concerns of new nominees -- who do not necessarily see our "guidance for

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-30 Thread Jody Garnett
I do not think we need to get the wording perfect, we have have multiple bullet points to cover this requirement. I encourage everyone to look at the larger page, some of this is covered under guidence for candidate selection. -- Jody Garnett On 30 August 2017 at 08:54, Kevin Smith

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-30 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Hi, If I may still chime in, I don't think this keeps the meaning of what was originally intended, I would add diversity to integrity. In an extreme example, if you consider the risk of green aliens taking over osgeo, those aliens may have integrity and still if they are too many, they would

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-30 Thread Helena Mitasova
I think that Sara’s suggestion for change in language is good and we should definitely consider it, but if you would like to learn more about this issue this article explains this specifically for nonprofits http://charitylawyerblog.com/2010/10/25/nonprofit-coup-detat/

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-30 Thread Luigi Pirelli
Hi Sara, without having a deep knowledge of decision took at higher levels, IMHO OS and particularly OSGEO worlds were already faced this kind of "hostile takeover". Not necessarly as "takeover" but trying to do some product protocols as OGC standards (think to lidar formats, map servers

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-29 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
Rather than stating what OSGeo is trying to avoid (a negative statement), it might be better to frame the responsibilities of charter members in terms of furthering the purpose of OSGeo (a positive statement): "The purpose of OSGeo is to establish and support a diverse open source community

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-29 Thread Sara Safavi
Coming back to this discussion; thank you all who chimed in with more information. With the words of wisdom from Frank, Jody, and others -- is it fair to say that Charter Members have the responsibility of voting, as well as "preserving the integrity of the OSGeo Foundation"? That seems a less,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-28 Thread Helmut Kudrnovsky
ss@lists.osgeo.org>, s...@sarasafavi.com Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this? Helmut, The word "hostile" is a bit unfortunate. One of the goals of charter membership early in the organization was to provide a mechanism to keep us aligned on rough

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-28 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Helmut, The word "hostile" is a bit unfortunate. One of the goals of charter membership early in the organization was to provide a mechanism to keep us aligned on roughly our original mission and community. I personally had a concern that we might get swamped by some other community and almost

[OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-28 Thread Helmut Kudrnovsky
sorry, missed the subject   Gesendet: Montag, 28. August 2017 um 20:12 Uhr Von: "Helmut Kudrnovsky" An: discuss@lists.osgeo.org, s...@sarasafavi.com Betreff: Kein Betreff Sara Safavi: >In the notification emails from CRO to new charter member nominees, the >following is included (emphasis mine):

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-28 Thread Jody Garnett
Sara based on the discussion do you have a recommendation for rewording? As a temporary measure I have added a link to the wikipedia page provided. The other change made for 2017 was to clarify the diversity section (so it was not just about diversity of programming language and interests) -

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-28 Thread Jody Garnett
This was something that was explained to me in f2f meeting in 2016. Apparently other non-profits have had a situation where new members from a specific community or point of view are voted in due to lax requirements and come to dominate the board selection process. The wording "hostile" is a bit

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-28 Thread Alex M
On 08/28/2017 09:41 AM, Sara Safavi wrote: > Hi discuss, > > In the notification emails from CRO to new charter member nominees, the > following is included (emphasis mine): > > *"(Charter Members) have the following responsibilities: (1) annually vote > for OSGeo Board Members; (2) annually

[OSGeo-Discuss] "Hostile Takeover" -- what do we mean by this?

2017-08-28 Thread Sara Safavi
Hi discuss, In the notification emails from CRO to new charter member nominees, the following is included (emphasis mine): *"(Charter Members) have the following responsibilities: (1) annually vote for OSGeo Board Members; (2) annually vote for new OSGeo Charter Members and (3) be aware of and