Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-11 Thread Justin Deoliveira
> > The future. > == > Justin Deoliveira, of the Open Planning Project, was in charge > of the Integration Showcase, and he loaded the Canadian geodata > onto the Refractions server. During FOSS4G2007 I had a > discussion with Justin

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-11 Thread Lorenzo Becchi
I love the idea of maintaining a suite of services as an integration showcase on an ongoing basis rather than as just a conference work item. This connects to the concept of a "demonstration stack" that we never really followed up on either. Basically to have a bunch of packages installed on a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-11 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Dave Patton wrote: All OSGeo projects must contribute to the showcase, and keep maintaining their portion of the showcase. Dave, We try to avoid using the word "must" too often for projects! The showcase would initially be built using some known set of data. Preparation before FOSS4G might i

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-11 Thread Dave Patton
Tim Bowden wrote: I believe the integration test bed didn't go quite as well as planned. Any thoughts as to why, and what could be done next time to improve the experience? First, a bit of background. -- http://wiki.osgeo.org/index

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-10 Thread Sampson, David
nett Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 18:29 To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed On problem was expecting vendors to supply their own hardware for something that was a conference theme. If you made several machines available prior to the conference for the vendors to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-09 Thread Mark Leslie
Rajs comment about structure struck me as dead on. I would expect the test bed to be much more engaging if we developed some actual use cases. This would require an early commitment from participants, but would help define what we expect of them and give us a list of people we can harass to m

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-09 Thread Cameron Shorter
I was very excited to hear about the Integration test bed concept and hope that any setbacks can be taken as a learning experience and help us put some achievable steps in place to make it more successful at future events - be they FOSS4G or conferences with an OSGeo presence. Key take home po

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-09 Thread Jody Garnett
On problem was expecting vendors to supply their own hardware for something that was a conference theme. If you made several machines available prior to the conference for the vendors to configure with their software you may get some traction. Vendors are very busy getting their own act togethe

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-09 Thread Sampson, David
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raj Singh Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 23:16 To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed I didn't feel the activity was well enough defined. OGC has done a lot of these types of things

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-08 Thread Raj Singh
I didn't feel the activity was well enough defined. OGC has done a lot of these types of things, and found that they work best when the participants have a pressing issue to tackle. In the future, I suggest that the integration issue is grounded in a real-world problem that is relevant to s

[OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-08 Thread Tim Bowden
I believe the integration test bed didn't go quite as well as planned. Any thoughts as to why, and what could be done next time to improve the experience? Regards, Tim Bowden ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailma

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Justin Deoliveira
> A MapServer WMS is probably, just like the database itself, one of the > backend services that should be hosted on the main server and have its > URL published as early as possible so that others can build their demos > against it. > > >> >> But we can definitely keep it running in order to pa

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Daniel Morissette
Justin Deoliveira wrote: I have a mapserver instance installed on the same server running the postgis database. I am using it to publish some raster data via WMS at the moment. Probably use it to serve up some dem data as well. A MapServer WMS is probably, just like the database itself, one o

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Justin Deoliveira
I just threw up a GeoServer instance and updated the wiki page. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase#GeoServer Currently it is only publishing a single dataset, an "appointments" dataset as Arnulf suggested. Let he brainstorming begin about what kind of "live" datasets w

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Cameron Shorter
Arnulf, good idea to have a WFS-T we can all connect to. How about we publish the URL before the demo so that we can set up and test our clients, then reset the data at the start of the conference. (Mike Adair is setting up a Mapbuilder client.) Arnulf Christl wrote: Our 2ct for the Integrati

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Paul Spencer
Daniel, I'm considering the possibility of setting one up, but am in the same position as you are ... way too much to do! Also, everyone is on holiday right now (or at least it seems that way) so I can't really commit until I talk to some folks here. If we do something, it will likely be

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Hi Daniel, I have a mapserver instance installed on the same server running the postgis database. I am using it to publish some raster data via WMS at the moment. Probably use it to serve up some dem data as well. It is not listed on the site because I was thinking that someone else would probabl

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Daniel Morissette
Arnulf Christl wrote: Potentially the outcome of a previous workshop could be this WMS... (dream on). We share Jody's hope that someone from the MapServer community is actually setting up a WMS for or during FOSS4G. For example W05: Tom Kralidis Environmennt Canada Daniel Morissette MapGears

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Hi Arnulf, > > Additionally we hope that someone from the GeoServer community will do > the same for a WFS-T. > [W07] Introduction to Geospatial Collaboration using Geoserver > Chris Holmes > The Open Planning Project > > And so on. > > The WhereGroup will contribute a generic GeoServer WFS-T wi

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Paul Ramsey
Arnulf Christl wrote: How does the Demonstration Theatre tie into this? http://www.foss4g2007.org/exhibition/demotheatre/ It doesn't, they are orthogonal concepts. The Integration showcase runs throughout the conference, and people can go try various components of it at the different vendor/

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Arnulf Christl
Our 2ct for the Integration Showcase: PS. I am really hoping that anyone good at MapServer will take a run at the problem. We are interested in consuming WMS and WFS services in our application Mapbender. We do not need the Online Resources or FeatureTypes of the services now because we want t

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Markus Neteler
On 8/23/07, Justin Deoliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Markus, > > Whoops, this is a typo on the page. It is actually port 20543, not > 80543. I updated the connection info on the page. Never mind! Just funny that "Live" projects are already mentioned on the Wiki page... :) Markus

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Hi Markus, Whoops, this is a typo on the page. It is actually port 20543, not 80543. I updated the connection info on the page. -Justin Markus Neteler wrote: > Hi Justin, > > I am curious to try with GRASS, but v.in.ogr (OGR) tells me: > > ERROR 1: PQconnectdb failed. > could not connect to se

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Markus Neteler
Hi Justin, I am curious to try with GRASS, but v.in.ogr (OGR) tells me: ERROR 1: PQconnectdb failed. could not connect to server: Connection timed out Is the server running on host "office.refractions.net" and accepting TCP/IP connections on port 80543? date Thu Aug 23 21:44:01 C

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Bob Basques
Justin, Let me get a couple of the download sets into play first. I'll get back to you. Thanks for the offer, bobb Justin Deoliveira wrote: Hi Bob, I can generate database dumps for you. Just tell me what tables in particular you are interested in. -Justin Bob Basques wrote: Justi

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Hi Bob, I can generate database dumps for you. Just tell me what tables in particular you are interested in. -Justin Bob Basques wrote: > Justin, > > So it's all Database based. > > Hmm, I figured it was going to be all different types of source data. > This is kinda making it too easy now

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Bob Basques
Justin, So it's all Database based. Hmm, I figured it was going to be all different types of source data. This is kinda making it too easy now. (Really!) The system I was going to demo has some good pluses as far as easy integration of disparate data. I don't suppose there is a compress

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Hi Bob, I think what Jody was trying to point you at was this: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase#PostGIS_Database_:_Refractions_Research It is what you say, a single spot of storage for the data which has a subset of those datasets posted on the Canadian Geodata page

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Bob Basques
Dave, It wasn't immediately obvious that that was where the data was. bobb Dave Patton wrote: Jody Garnett wrote: Can you show me the "ntdb_roads_50" layer? Why are you being asked this? Well it is because the fellow in front of you is wanting to see how well your software performs, and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Bob Basques
Jody, Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase A lot of reference and catalog description links though. Is this it? :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not exactly obvious from the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Dave Patton
Jody Garnett wrote: Can you show me the "ntdb_roads_50" layer? Why are you being asked this? Well it is because the fellow in front of you is wanting to see how well your software performs, and the last two projects had the same dataset (and darn if gvSig was not nearly as fast as ArcView) a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Jody Garnett
Bob Basques wrote: Is this restricted to conference attendees? Nope. Also, where is the data? Is there one copy of somewhere to download? See the wiki page. Jody PS. Join the osgeo data committee if you want to collaborate on this kind of thing outside of the bounds of the conference.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Bob Basques
Is this restricted to conference attendees? Also, where is the data? Is there one copy of somewhere to download? bobb Jody Garnett wrote: I am going to kick off a general discussion with a story, one that I would like to see prevented ... You arrive at FOSS4G and are really looking forwar

[OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Jody Garnett
I am going to kick off a general discussion with a story, one that I would like to see prevented ... You arrive at FOSS4G and are really looking forward to showing off your new (Web, KML, mashup, gvSig, PostGis, OpenLayer, MapServer, GeoServer, GeoNetwork, 3D, or even DB2 and Oracle). And