>>Unless
>>>>>someone can offer a direct compare and contrast between the concept
>>>>>here
>>>>>and the GML/Binary GML concept.
>>>>>In either case being able to convert to and from GML would be a
>>>>>necesity
>
>>> for wide adoption IMHO.
>>>>> Another thought is to encourage some of the proprietary formats to
>>>>> open
>>>>> up. What would it take to get ESRI on board to open up the format
>>>>> (open
>>>>> as in free speech
hor
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So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS
data.
That it is open (albeit not Free) along with the deep and wide
presence
of ESRI'
gt; open
>>> then we can bring the SHP format to modern day useage. Surely much of
>>> the format could be salvaged.
>>> Besides, if you want wide adoption of an open format then why not
>>> go for
>>> those players who hold greatest market share.
&g
dear all,
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 04:17:18PM -0500, Sampson, David wrote:
> Besides, if you want wide adoption of an open format then why not go for
> those players who hold greatest market share.
When is a format an open format? We know an "open license" can be one
complying to the OSI open licen
of an open format then why not
go for
those players who hold greatest market share.
Some thoughts.
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So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS data.
That it is open (albeit not Free) along with the deep and wide presence
of ESRI's products from the beginning of the epoch, it has been widely
adopted. Existence of shapelib, v
Why not make it on the H2 database ;-) or Derby (both have been proposed
on the java lists recently); Seriously
choosing a language specific format is not the most fun idea.
Cheers,
Jody
So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS
data. That it is open (albeit not Free) a
ormat then why not go for
those players who hold greatest market share.
Some thoughts.
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On 11/13/07, Frank Warmerdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> P Kishor wrote:
> > So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS
> > data. That it is open (albeit not Free) along with the deep and wide
> > presence of ESRI's products from the beginning of the epoch, it has
> > been
On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:42 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
o RDBMS style operations like SQL filtering, joins, etc.
o Get past all the shapefile limitations related to the .dbf format
(very
restricted data types, short attribute names, lots of other limits)
o Allow storing many layers in one file.
D]
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:42:12AM -0800, Landon Blake wrote:
>
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:42:12AM -0800, Landon Blake wrote:
>
> You wrote: " that would be completely Free,
> single-file based (instead of the multiple .shp, .dbf, .shx, etc..."
>
> Is there a problem with a multiple file format? I have tinkered with
> some different binary file formats, and i
P Kishor wrote:
So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS
data. That it is open (albeit not Free) along with the deep and wide
presence of ESRI's products from the beginning of the epoch, it has
been widely adopted. Existence of shapelib, various language bindings,
and re
er some ideas?
I'd be very interesting in offering Java support for a shapefile
replacement endorsed by the OSGeo.
The Sunburned Surveyor
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Puneet,
You wrote: "Is this too crazy?"
I don't think this idea is crazy at all. In fact, I think it is a very
good idea. I do have a couple of com
this sounds like the SDF format, although I am not sure that SDF is
open source - there is an open source implementation as part of FDO (http://fdo.osgeo.org/fdosdf/index.html
)
Paul
On 13-Nov-07, at 9:52 AM, P Kishor wrote:
So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS
dorsed by the OSGeo.
The Sunburned Surveyor
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So, I am thinking, S
P Kishor wrote:
So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS
data. That it is open (albeit not Free) along with the deep and wide
presence of ESRI's products from the beginning of the epoch, it has
been widely adopted. Existence of shapelib, various language bindings,
and re
Puneet:
I believe you've just described the SDF format (open, based on SQL
lite) that is currently in use by FDO / MapGuide.
Some info from a post from Jason Birch a while back:
"To bring us back to the start of this post, the one item on this
list that I think may get overlooked is suppor
So, I am thinking, Shapefile is the de facto data standard for GIS
data. That it is open (albeit not Free) along with the deep and wide
presence of ESRI's products from the beginning of the epoch, it has
been widely adopted. Existence of shapelib, various language bindings,
and ready use by product
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