Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-27 Thread Jeroen Ticheler
Excellent idea! It would need a little bit of content management to avoid getting spam in these fields and getting feedback preferably back to the source, but that might be overcome with some brainstorming :-) Cheers, Jeroen On Aug 26, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Ted Habermann wrote: Lots of

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-25 Thread Landon Blake
Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms MPG: When you say effort do you mean some sort of library to support JP2 geo side of things? What programming language would you be most interested in? C++? Landon Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 Cell Phone Number

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-25 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Landon Blake Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:12 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms OK. I'm not an expert on images, but I'd be interested in working with you. However, I avoid C

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-25 Thread Ted Habermann
Lots of discussions on standardization of data formats, lots of challenges there. One thing that has not been mentioned (I think) is the idea of standardizing responses from users about 1) uses of data and 2) limitations of data (files too big fits in here). Both of these are included in the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Fawcett, David wrote: I realize that there are likely not a large number of people who have the expertise and experience to write this kind of code. Is this a project that should be shopped around for funding? I'd say so. Google Summer of Code? IMHO, it definitely doesn't such

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Bob Basques
interested in open data formats? David. -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Michael P. Gerlek Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:36 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread René A. Enguehard
: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:36 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms snip Do you know why there hasn't been a broader adoption of JP2? Not through lack of trying on my part :-) I think the two biggest reasons are: (1) The algorithms

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Bob Basques
: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms snip Do you know why there hasn't been a broader adoption of JP2? Not through lack of trying on my part :-) I think the two biggest reasons are: (1) The algorithms for handling large images in memory really are rocket science

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
, David Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:11 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms I realize that there are likely not a large number of people who have the expertise and experience to write this kind of code. Is this a project that should

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Landon Blake
...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Michael P. Gerlek Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 1:59 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms It would not be a good SoC thing, due to the level of expertise and time required

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-24 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms MPG: When you say effort do you mean some sort of library to support JP2 geo side of things? What programming language would you be most interested in? C++? Landon Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 Cell Phone

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-08-22 Thread Cameron Shorter
. Gerlek Sent: Friday, 21 August 2009 6:55 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms Some clarifications: - MrSID has both lossy and lossless modes - MrSID is not fractal based; it uses wavelets (and arithmetic encoding) - you can't

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-08-21 Thread Considine, Michael
- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Bannerman Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:15 PM To: 'OSGeo Discussions' Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] IMO: Just another thought

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Eric Wolf
The MRSID format is a very special case - and perhaps an opportunity for a new FOSS file format. MRSID is a lossless, fractal-based, multi-scale raster compression format. LizardTech has the algorithms to encode and decode MRSID locked up in copyrights, and I believe, patents. Even companies like

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Landon Blake
[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Eric Wolf Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:15 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms The MRSID format is a very special case - and perhaps an opportunity for a new FOSS file format. MRSID

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Eric Wolf
: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Eric Wolf *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:15 PM *To:* OSGeo Discussions *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms The MRSID format is a very special case - and perhaps an opportunity for a new FOSS file

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Eric Wolf Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:15 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms The MRSID format is a very special case - and perhaps

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Eric Wolf
...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Eric Wolf *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:15 PM *To:* OSGeo Discussions *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms The MRSID format is a very special case - and perhaps

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Landon Blake
...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Michael P. Gerlek Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:55 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms Some clarifications: - MrSID has both lossy and lossless modes - MrSID

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Landon asked: When you said there is today no open source implementation of JP2 that is suitable for geo work do you mean that there is no open source library that can read and write JP2? If so, who is using the format? There are a few implementations of JP2 around. The Kakadu library,

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms MPG: Thanks for the clarification. When you said there is today no open source implementation of JP2 that is suitable for geo work do you mean that there is no open source library that can read and write JP2? If so, who is using

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 01:57:16PM -0700, Landon Blake wrote: MPG: Thanks for the clarification. When you said there is today no open source implementation of JP2 that is suitable for geo work do you mean that there is no open source library that can read and write JP2? If so, who is

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms

2009-08-20 Thread Landon Blake
...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Schmidt Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:50 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 01:57:16PM -0700, Landon Blake wrote: MPG: Thanks for the clarification. When you said

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-08-20 Thread Bruce Bannerman
P. Gerlek Sent: Friday, 21 August 2009 6:55 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats and Proprietary Algorithms Some clarifications: - MrSID has both lossy and lossless modes - MrSID is not fractal based; it uses wavelets (and arithmetic encoding