Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-27 Thread Phil Meyer
Does anyone know what the power usage is in "power off" state for each SB model? I tend to leave my SB3 and Transporter permanently plugged in. What is the best plugin to install to enable a command to be sent to put the local server to sleep/hibernate? I'd like to do it as a manual action (se

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-26 Thread dsdreamer
Zaragon;295818 Wrote: > One interesting point about using Squeezeboxes in a green fashion that > always seems to crop up is the comment along the lines of " I'm going > to build a low power server ". > > So I was wondering in global enery and resource terms is going out and > buying new compone

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-26 Thread Zaragon
One interesting point about using Squeezeboxes in a green fashion that always seems to crop up is the comment along the lines of " I'm going to build a low power server ". So I was wondering in global enery and resource terms is going out and buying new components, which used electricity in manu

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-26 Thread bobkoure
syburgh;295626 Wrote: > > Not a great idea to run SC7 open to the public Internet, but many home > routers support VPN... Or you create a virtual machine, give it read-only access to the "base" OS that actually contains all your music files (the same way you'd do if it was two machines networked

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-25 Thread syburgh
Agree with most of the previous posters-- I use a Core based system with passive cooling and laptop drives. It's about 19W with SpeedStep at lowest speed (never increases except when transcoding FLAC to MP3 files). I use WOL with a 30 min timeout to suspend the system and wake using SB3 (takes a f

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-25 Thread bobkoure
Right - but if you're going to run a box 24x7, you can just run squeezecenter right on there. Don't get me wrong, VMs are great, but a lot of the attraction for server VMs is that you have a better shot at server stability if you don't have to worry about the interplay between server apps. VMs als

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-25 Thread forddonald
One alternative approach is to consider virtualization. The equation then becomes: if you were willing to run a PC full time to support the music serving requirement, and you have another PC for some other regular, recurring workload, then virtualizing them and placing the both of them (or more, a

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-25 Thread bobkoure
I know I'm being contrary to "accepted wisdom" somewhat here, but if you've got a fairly large collection, laptop drives don't offer power savings. Yes, they're low wattage, but they're also low capacity. For instance, WD has a "green" 1TB drive that uses around 5W. How many laptop drives would it

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-25 Thread Peter
funkstar wrote: > I've voiced my thoughts on this before, here is a link to the post: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=288939#post288939 > > In short, it takes a lot more to be 'green' than just using less > electricity :) > My thoughts: There's only a limited amount of power. I

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-25 Thread funkstar
I've voiced my thoughts on this before, here is a link to the post: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=288939#post288939 In short, it takes a lot more to be 'green' than just using less electricity :) -- funkstar -

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-24 Thread Honva
dsdreamer;295254 Wrote: > I have been enjoying my pair of SB3s for quite some time without > thinking about the energy costs (financial and environmental) of > running an old PC 24/7/365 to act as a dedicated server. Now I want to > do something about it, and wondered what options people have emp

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-24 Thread dsdreamer
SuperQ;295285 Wrote: > The best way to save electricity is to just use SqueezeNetwork. ;) > But I only like to listen to lossless FLAC files :-) SuperQ;295285 Wrote: > > WoL has been supported since 6.0 afaik (SqueezeBox 2). If you could > give us more details about your server, we could pr

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-24 Thread Pat Farrell
dsdreamer wrote: > Anyway, my experience in using 3/4 of the rated clock speeds was > noticeably less heat and less noise (due to the temperature controlled > fan running slower) and I see no down-side as yet. I've also had good stability with underclocking. It generally reduces CPU power directl

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-24 Thread dsdreamer
CatBus;295271 Wrote: > Here's my thoughts based on my experience along similar lines: > > CPU and memory underclocking won't get you anything but headaches. I'm not sure why that should be? Power consumption is proportional to clock frequency all else being equal, and if a synchronous digita

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-24 Thread SuperQ
The best way to save electricity is to just use SqueezeNetwork. ;) WoL has been supported since 6.0 afaik (SqueezeBox 2). If you could give us more details about your server, we could probably give you more specific tips. Have you upgraded to an 80Plus PSU? Have you put your server on a watt-m

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-24 Thread Pat Farrell
CatBus wrote: > others. A Pentium 3 or Core-series CPU is fairly efficient, but > there's no saving a P4. Not sure about the AMD side. Hope that helps. Look at VIA and others if you want serious energy savings. Anything Pentium is really a space heater. SqueezeCenter doesn't need much CPU pow

Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-24 Thread CatBus
Here's my thoughts based on my experience along similar lines: CPU and memory underclocking won't get you anything but headaches. Auto-standby seems like a very good idea if you can get WOL working. Removing unneeded hardware certainly can't hurt, but it's probably more effective to buy/replace

[slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips

2008-04-24 Thread dsdreamer
I have been enjoying my pair of SB3s for quite some time without thinking about the energy costs (financial and environmental) of running an old PC 24/7/365 to act as a dedicated server. Now I want to do something about it, and wondered what options people have employed successfully. Some ideas o