Philip Meyer;346089 Wrote:
You don't need to run archive analysis to add tags to the files. Are you
running MusicIP headless, or just get SqueezeCenter to connect to the
MusicIP GUI directly?
Can anyone do me a favour and list the simplest way to get MusicIP
(with Phils patch) and SlimCenter
Can anyone do me a favour and list the simplest way to get MusicIP
(with Phils patch) and SlimCenter to integrate new music? I am running
MusicIP headless.
This is my full process for adding new music:
1. Rip new music to hard disk with EAC.
2. Correct tags with Mp3Tag.
3. Use Foobar to add
Philip Meyer;346794 Wrote:
1. Rip new music to hard disk with EAC.
2. Correct tags with Mp3Tag.
3. Use Foobar to add Replay Gain tags.
4. Open MusicIP GUI and analyse the new songs.
5. Save the MusicIP library (or exit MusicIP GUI).
6. In MusicIP Headless server, Reload cache.
7. In
1. Rip new music to hard disk with EAC.
2. Correct tags with Mp3Tag.
3. Use Foobar to add Replay Gain tags.
4. Open MusicIP GUI and analyse the new songs.
5. Save the MusicIP library (or exit MusicIP GUI).
6. In MusicIP Headless server, Reload cache.
7. In SqueezeCenter, scan for new/changed
Since I set the Music Folder in SC to blank so that it refers to the
MusicIP folder structure, I have now lost the ability to browse my
music by folder. Sometimes I do like to be able to browse by folder so
I'd like to have this functionality back while still having the MusicIP
setup work
OhPinchy;346806 Wrote:
If I add my music path back in SC will this mess up my MusicIP setup?
Shouldn't do - I run MIP with an entry for Browse Music Folder with no
problems. Some people did have a problem with duplicate entries in SC
when using MIP and removing the Music Library entry sorted
4. Open MusicIP GUI and analyse the new songs.
5. Save the MusicIP library (or exit MusicIP GUI).
6. In MusicIP Headless server, Reload cache.
Thanks Phil. I was not certain that 4. was necessary now, but it
obviously is.
It may be possible to find new music and analyse the tracks via the
Does Step 4 have to be done in the GUI? In he Preferences window I
ticked the opion that says 'Archive analysis when tracks are analyzed
(modifies files)' and my understanding is this would automatically save
the analysis to the files regardless of whether the analysis was done
via the GUI or
mherger;346484 Wrote:
Did you clear the server side cache too?
I'm not entirely sure I get your meaning. Do mean delete my SlimCenter
cache?
If so, the answer is no. I'm going to do it now anyway (for other
reasons). However, it's a bit impractical to spend 2 plus hours
recreating my cache
If so, the answer is no. I'm going to do it now anyway (for other
Only the template cache folder (inside SC's cache folder).
--
Michael
___
discuss mailing list
discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
I have tried various browsers and cleared caches in the usual manner.
Did you clear the server side cache too?
--
Michael
___
discuss mailing list
discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Please help, I'm completely stumped.
I have taken the MusicMagic folder out of the Slim/Plugin folder and
restarted SC. I can then see that the plugin has been entirely removed
from the SC web gui.
I download the adapted MusuicIP plugin from Phil's web site (Phil, have
you ever considered
mherger;346488 Wrote:
Only the template cache folder (inside SC's cache folder)
Thanks.
For any others who experience the same problem. a deletion of my
whole cache directory has cured the problem and it's certain that
Michael's solution would have had the same effect (and been a lot
I guess the MusicIP plugin is not called to do a scan when you browse
music folder.
Correct. MusicIP scanning is independant, uses it's own trigger (see
interval setting).
Without my patch, it would have refetched the whole
Thanks again - working great here with my 7.3 :-)
Michael
Philip Meyer;346089 Wrote:
Sounds like my modified MusicIP plugin has not been installed
correctly, or you have ticked the Read Song Data checkbox.
It has gone! It was there. I have not reinstalled or anything... I
can't think what has happened (or what I could have done).
I'll attempt to
Could your upgraded plugin have been deleted when I upgraded from 7.2 to
7.2.1 perhaps (or any time I've run the 7.2.1 windows exe nightly)?
MC
--
ModelCitizen
On average people have fewer than two feet.
http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen
Could your upgraded plugin have been deleted when I upgraded from 7.2 to
7.2.1 perhaps (or any time I've run the 7.2.1 windows exe nightly)?
Yes. You'll have to re-apply the patch whenever you install/upgrade SC 7.2
Michael
___
discuss mailing list
Philip Meyer;346089 Wrote:
Sounds like my modified MusicIP plugin has not been installed
correctly, or you have ticked the Read Song Data checkbox.
I tracked down your web site (if hergest is used as a search term on
this forum it does not find urls with the term in in!), downloaded the
unzipped your plugin to C:\Program
Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Slim\Plugin\. Checked that the MusicMagic
folder had been recreated, stopped and started SqueezeCenter (yet
again).
and I still have no Read Song Data checkbox on my SqueezeCenter
Settings Advanced MusicIP page.
Well, if you
Philip Meyer;346190 Wrote:
Well, if you are not seeing the checkbox, then it must be running the
old code still somehow. Check you haven't got a copy elsewhere (eg. in
C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Plugins)?
Forgot to say, I checked that, and no.
I'm wondering if it is possible to
...or you could install SugarCube and get around having to do all the
sync stuff! It provides MIP functionality of a different kind ;)
New version due out shortly when I got a few spare hours to finish it
=)
(If you have a stack of foreign chars in your files then it will have
issues)
(If you have a stack of foreign chars in your files then it will have
issues)
I always wondered why you re-invented everything from scratch. Why don't you
use the code already available in the offical MIP plugin? You could use the CLI
commands to create mixes, thus never have to care about
The issue boils down to the play this file command to SC which goes ok..
and then doesnt stack it. The MIP request works fine.
I already use a lot of CLI commands just a shame the documentation for
SC is so poor and pretty impenetrable to the novice perl gardener..
maybe one day it will have a
Even with Phil's MusicIP patch I am at a loss as to what is happening
(and why it takes so long). Any explanation would be very welcome.
Here's what happens:
I add new music to my library.
I open the MusicIP program and make sure it analyses the new music and
adds the MusicIP tags to the
I add new music to my library.
I open the MusicIP program and make sure it analyses the new music and
adds the MusicIP tags to the files..
You don't need to run archive analysis to add tags to the files.
Are you running MusicIP headless, or just get SqueezeCenter to connect to the
MusicIP GUI
cparker;344819 Wrote:
Dont think it does in the latest version either.
From http://forums.musicip.com/index.php?showtopic=3632
MusicIP Mixer 1.9 beta 6 is now available for Windows via
snip
- Added archive=1 option for headless, to auto-archive tags
I'm going to try the GUI per your
egd;344882 Wrote:
Library/List Custom Filter/Stored Analysis is Missing will show you all
tracks that haven't had analysis archived.
Sweet, nice that they thought of that! I also changed the setting so
that it should always archive analysis when it's anaylsing the files -
will that apply to
sander;344779 Wrote:
I've been running 1.8 headless validating for a couple of weeks now, but
it looks like there isn't a way to archive the tags from headless 1.8.
Should I load the same database in the gui or upgrade to the later
beta?
TIA
Correct.. The headless MIP is basically a
OhPinchy;344535 Wrote:
Problem is the GUI doesn't seem to allow me to filter on only new tracks
- so I have to try find the new tracks amongs the 25,000 and then right
click and select Archive Analysis. Is there any way to streamline
this?Library/List Custom Filter/Stored Analysis is
OhPinchy;344535 Wrote:
It does seem like the mixes do include several songs by the seed artist
though - how can I change that?
Increase the Reject value to somewhere close to your mix size (so 15
for a 20 track mix) - should only give you one or two tracks by any
artist.
--
Siduhe
Who am
OhPinchy;344535 Wrote:
MiP GUI to do the analysis and then Archive Analysis to embed into the
tags. Problem is the GUI doesn't seem to allow me to filter on only new
tracks - so I have to try find the new tracks amongs the 25,000 and then
right click and select Archive Analysis. Is there
I've been running 1.8 headless validating for a couple of weeks now, but
it looks like there isn't a way to archive the tags from headless 1.8.
Should I load the same database in the gui or upgrade to the later
beta?
TIA
--
sander
I installed MusicIP in headless mode on my Xubuntu system. It starts up
and is now indexing my songs. In several places I read that it is good
practice to write the analysis to the tag, but i cannot find the place
where to activate this option.
--
raven22
I installed MusicIP in headless mode on my Xubuntu system. It starts up
and is now indexing my songs. In several places I read that it is good
practice to write the analysis to the tag, but i cannot find the place
where to activate this option.
FWIW: I've been running MIP for several years
mherger;344249 Wrote:
I installed MusicIP in headless mode on my Xubuntu system. It starts
up
and is now indexing my songs. In several places I read that it is
good
practice to write the analysis to the tag, but i cannot find the
place
where to activate this option.
FWIW: I've been
where can i find the database? Or is it made after indexing is
complete?
it's the cache file as indicated in the mmm.ini file:
[services]
cache=/path/to/the/default.m3lib
--
Michael
___
discuss mailing list
discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
I have this up and running now and will be playing about with it over
the weekend. I set the settings to the values listed above by Siduhe.
I was a little suprised by some of the mixes (e.g. seeding from Country
House by Blur got a mix with a lot of Alanis Morisette and Bon Jovi in
it which I
Great stuff, I just remote desktopped into it from work and it seems to
have found all my tracks.
Through the SC web interface I clicked on the MusicIP Mix icon to the
right of a track and it created a mix (though I can't confirm it
actually plays until I get home). Does it work the same on the
I posted this a little while back with a longer explaination of what I
thought all the various options meant:
MusicIP Player Settings for Each Mix - Yes [see explanation about
Filters below]
MusicIP Mix Size - Tracks = 50 [I tend to run through the playlist and
delete the ones I'm not happy
Sweet, cheers for that Sidhue, I'll start with those setting values and
work it from there.looking forward to finally getting the benefits
of setting this up.
--
OhPinchy
OhPinchy's Profile:
Sounds like the port setting in SC is wrong, have you checked it matches
the MIP headless port?
Settings - Plugin - MusicIP - Settings
--
cparker
www.spicefly.com - Visit for an enhanced Interface for MusicIP and
integration tips and tricks, Plugin coding tips, Spicefly SugarCube the
MIP
I checked, and I have the port in the MiP GUI set to 10003 and the port
in the mmm.ini file set to 10002. In the MusicIP settings page in SC I
have port set to 10002. I can access the webpage at localhost:10002 so
it seems the headless server is running on that port.
Based on how I read it, this
I plan on getting stuck into trying to fix this when I get home from
work in a while so any tips on what to look for are much appreciated :)
--
OhPinchy
OhPinchy's Profile:
OhPinchy;343661 Wrote:
I checked, and I have the port in the MiP GUI set to 10003 and the port
in the mmm.ini file set to 10002. In the MusicIP settings page in SC I
have port set to 10002. I can access the webpage at localhost:10002 so
it seems the headless server is running on that port.
I got delayed in work so didn't really get to look into this. Thank for
the pointer maggior, though I don't really follow - I don't see any
options on the MiP headless web page at http://localhost:10002 to
specify cache location. A 'Reload Cache' button did appear at one stage
so I clicked that.
OhPinchy;343862 Wrote:
I got delayed in work so didn't really get to look into this. Thank for
the pointer maggior, though I don't really follow - I don't see any
options on the MiP headless web page at http://localhost:10002 to
specify cache location. A 'Reload Cache' button did appear at
Ah nuts...just when I thought I had correctly followed all the
instructions on the Wiki and Spicefly sites and was waiting for the SC
clear rescan thinking all would be good.the scan completes but
now SC shows me no tracks. It shows the scan results as having found 0
tracks.
On the MiP
Hi egd, I'm trying to figure out how to get this all working on my
Windows Home Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2. I've worked through your
Wiki and have MiP installed as a service and the the replacement
index.html installed (from spicefly.com). I don't see any tracks listed
on the web UI but I
OhPinchy;343107 Wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how to get this all working on my Windows Home
Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2.Hi Spicefly's (cparker) instructions for
getting MiP working on Windows
are the instructions to follow for all Windows installations. The Wiki
entry should help
Great stuff, thanks egd. Looking forward to getting this yoke setup and
taken out for a spin!
--
OhPinchy
OhPinchy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15882
View this thread:
ModelCitizen wrote:
My PC is not very state of the art at all.
Heh, I still chuckle when I remember that machine you brought round to
try and install linux on to run Slimserver. Wasn't it a P1 with 32MB of
RAM, or some such?
:)
R.
___
discuss
Robin Bowes;338821 Wrote:
ModelCitizen wrote:
My PC is not very state of the art at all.
Heh, I still chuckle when I remember that machine you brought round to
try and install linux on to run Slimserver. Wasn't it a P1 with 32MB of
RAM, or some such?
Yup. It ran our FreeBSD name
One thing that troubles me is I can't seem to figure out how to run MIP
headless on OS X. The instructions on the website don't make sense,
because they point you to a file that doesn't seem to exist. Has anyone
else ran into this problem?
--
ezkcdude
There are 10 kind of people in the world
I'd be interested to know if anyone can explain the following situation.
I just purchased an iMac and set it up yesterday. I transferred my mp3
collection over from my PC - where I had been running MusicIP and
SqueezeCenter (successfully). I have about 13,000 songs in my library,
and I thought it
ezkcdude;338544 Wrote:
I'd be interested to know if anyone can explain the following situation.
I just purchased an iMac and set it up yesterday. I transferred my mp3
collection over from my PC - where I had been running MusicIP and
SqueezeCenter (successfully). I have about 13,000 songs in
ezkcdude;338544 Wrote:
Well, lo and behold, as soon as MIP was done importing the library, I
was able to make mixes again. The whol process only took a few minutes.
How is that possible? I was sure that MIP would have to analyze all the
songs from scratch...unless, is the MIP metadata
Thanks, guys. I'll assume it's working as it should then. The mixes seem
as good as ever, anyway.
--
ezkcdude
There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary
and those who don't.
SHINYMETAL
'*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*'
I think I figured out what is going on. I found this on the MIP website:
Although the acoustical information created by MusicIP Mixer
(fingerprints and analysis) is stored primarly in the cache, you can
also save this information into your music files directly as custom
tags. This will make
Thanks for making things clearer haunyhack.
But then I think I am left with this dilemma (see last post):
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48422
MC
--
ModelCitizen
On average people have fewer than two feet.
http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen
I think I have MusicIP setup correct, but have a question
System: Vista Ultimate 32, SC 7.2 - 22997 , Music IP 1.8.1b
I have the MusicIP headless running. It returns:
Total songs 36,582
Mixable songs 36,566
Songs to validate 561
And can create a test mix.
In SC, I have the MusicIP plugin
I'm still not sure if the music library should be set to my music
directory path or leave it blank? Benefits either way? There are some
songs that I know MusicIP is not picking up and I like to play via SC.
Use both, path and MIP. If you experience wierdness like duplicated tracks,
then
If you use Archive Analysis in the MIP GUI options, the pain of
scanning a large library is greatly reduced should your MIP database
become corrupted or unusable.
As I re-install my OS(s) 6 times a day or so, scanning my 150,000+
tracks is comparatively trivial.
Cheers!
.
--
haunyack
haunyack;337877 Wrote:
As I re-install my OS(s) 6 times a day or so
That's a lot. Do you get time for anything else?
MC
--
ModelCitizen
On average people have fewer than two feet.
http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen
ModelCitizen;337881 Wrote:
That's a lot. Do you get time for anything else?
MC
Compulsively obssessed with format C:\
.
--
haunyack
haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721
View this
ModelCitizen;328748 Wrote:
Golly... this whole MusicIP shebang only works and my PC can handle
it! (perhaps I'll get another year out of it yet).
Great that MusicIP is on the SBC interface too... (as I only use SBCs
now).
MC
MC, now that you've gotten it working, care to have at
haunyack;337877 Wrote:
If you use Archive Analysis in the MIP GUI options, the pain of
scanning a large library is greatly reduced should your MIP database
become corrupted or unusable.
Thisd means that MuiscIP{ writes it's tsuff to you files' tags, right?
If so... it doesn't seem to make a
ModelCitizen;337887 Wrote:
Thisd means that MuiscIP{ writes it's tsuff to you files' tags, right? Correct
ModelCitizen;337887 Wrote:
Since installing MIP SC scans take twice as long as SC seems to scan my
music files once (for conventional tags?) and then scans them again for
MIP tags...
egd;337886 Wrote:
MC, now that you've gotten it working, care to have at look at the Wiki
entry in my signature and letting me know if it would have gotten you
to the same place?
I looked at your wiki stuff (as you can see from my first post).
First major problem: I just don't trust wikis.
ModelCitizen;337895 Wrote:
I looked at your wiki stuff (as you can see from my first post). Didn't see a
reference to the Wiki entry in your first post, albeit you
did reference another.
ModelCitizen;337895 Wrote:
more importantly the first line of your MiP headless under
Windowssection
egd;337892 Wrote:
Hence my recommendation not to include our music path in SC
Sorry, I don't get that. What is our music path?
There is a path to my music (well, actually to shortcuts to the music
held on different drives). Both SC and MIP are pointed to these. Are
you saying that I should not
egd;337892 Wrote:
Hence my recommendation not to include our music path in SC if you're
using MiP integration. AFAIK the only time it makes sense to leave the
path intact is if you have music in your library that you haven't added
to your MiP database.
May a suggest another route? Let SC
ModelCitizen;337899 Wrote:
Sorry, I don't get that. What is our music path?
There is a path to my music (well, actually to shortcuts to the music
held on different drives). Both SC and MIP are pointed to these. Are
you saying that I should not point SC at any music files at all?
Yes, our
egd;337898 Wrote:
Didn't see a reference to the Wiki entry in your first post, albeit you
did reference another.
Thanks. So the Wiki was definitive then :P
I guess this just reinforces my general distrust of wikis. Why are
there two MusicIP entries in the SD wiki? The one I originally
schiegl;337901 Wrote:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5637
Yup, that's the kiddie.
So. I'm not clear if it's going to be included in any SlimCenter
version any time soon.
MC
--
ModelCitizen
On average people have fewer than two feet.
http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen
ModelCitizen;337905 Wrote:
The basic point is that there is a lot of different stuff about MusicIP
and Slimserver integration around and for the potential user one
obvious up-to-date definitive guide would be best. Otherwise confusion
will reign (as it did for me).I agree, perhaps it would
ModelCitizen;337887 Wrote:
Thisd means that MuiscIP writes it's stuff to you files' tags, right?
Right.
If so... it doesn't seem to make a scan trivial for me. Since
installing MIP SC scans take twice as long as SC seems to scan my music
files once (for conventional tags?) and then
I forgot to add earlier that I really thing the beta 1.9v5 (I think) is
much faster at analyzing than the earlier version. It seems to work
fine with all the stuff we need also.
--
Nonreality
-IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.-
I have installed the MusicIP on my older PC running XP and SC7.1. The PC
was approx. 3 days to catalog my 12.000 tracks. After read the issues
about the database and its unstable reputation I used the archive
function, in order to move the information to the lac files itself. It
failed (windows
Hi,
after just over one month Music IP has finished scanning my music
library. I've made a copy of the database and let Music IP write the
info to my tags. My problem has now become which set of install
instructions do I use. I have found at least five different sources and
I'm not too sure any
Thanks, they will come in useful. Maybe they should be added to the
WiKi.
ModelCitizen;328505 Wrote:
http://spicefly.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=61;
That was the one that got me up and running headless with my 7.1 Vista
64 install. I pretty much just followed it to the
Cheers. So that the single best source for headless MusicIP integration
with7.1/7.2 now that SqueezeCenter includes the MusicIP plugin is here:
http://spicefly.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=61;.
Thanks a bunch.
My PC is not very state of the art at all. I have nearly 30k flac
Ive been trying to get this working on my system for ages with no
success . Everytime I download MusicIP it starts the setup process it
says ' Extracting Files ' and freezes and I never get beyond that point
even though MusicIP is ticked on in Settings section of SC .
Completely mystified by it
ModelCitizen;328526 Wrote:
Cheers. So that the single best source for headless MusicIP integration
with7.1/7.2 now that SqueezeCenter includes the MusicIP plugin is here:
http://spicefly.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=61;.
Hasn't MusicIP integration been included in
Hmmm... the insructions are very good and all is well so far except for
one rather large thing:
Do I still need to install the SugarCube plugin or is this unnesseccary
as MusicIp is integrated into 7.1/7.2 (Note: 7.1/7.2 comes with a
pre-installed Musicmagic directory - C:\Program
thing-fish;328599 Wrote:
Hasn't MusicIP integration been included in SlimServer/SqueezeCenter for
a long time now?
OK. So it appears I don't need to install the SugarCube plugin then?
But I still needed to install MusicIP and use the Spicefly instructions
to get it running in headless mode
ModelCitizen;328614 Wrote:
OK. So it appears I don't need to install the SugarCube plugin then?
But I still needed to install MusicIP and use the Spicefly instructions
to get it running in headless mode though?
Oh, what fun to be bleedin' edge.
MC
The SugarCube plugin is a complete
tamanaco;328631 Wrote:
The SugarCube plugin is a complete different animal that uses the
functionality of MusicIP to create an endless playlist on the flight.
I'm a giant MusicIP fan, and I love this idea. What a great extension
of the functionality! Am going to install SugarCube tonight!
thing-fish;328656 Wrote:
Only bad thing will be if I fall asleep with it on and it pollutes my
scrobbled tracks with stuff I didn't actually listen to ;)
This is neat, I can't wait!
You can always turn off scrobbling in the last.fm plugin advanced
settings, if you don't want pollution.
tamanaco;328665 Wrote:
You can always turn off scrobbling in the last.fm plugin advanced
settings, if you don't want pollution.
Or use the sleep timer.
--
Nonreality
-IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.-
HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality
ModelCitizen;328607 Wrote:
Hmmm... the instructions are very good and all is well so far except for
one rather large thing:
Do I still need to install the SugarCube plugin or is this unnecessary
as the MusicIP plugin appears integrated into 7.1/7.2 (Note: 7.1/7.2
comes with a
90 matches
Mail list logo
