Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-19 Thread Siduhe
seanadams;526518 Wrote: > as in audio testing, the details of our methodology are proprietary. > Furthermore, we have finely honed senses and decades of experience that > no layman could hope to match. There is no point disclosing the criteria > since you have no means to evaluate them. 4/10 ;-

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-19 Thread seanadams
esbrewer;526505 Wrote: > > 1. the criteria/attributes that best describe the ideal troll > 2. explicit descriptors of levels of performance for such criteria > 2. a particular troll's performance for such criteria for a given > thread > As in audio testing, the details of our methodology ar

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-19 Thread esbrewer
The trained educators among us know that a simple X/10 scale as Sean has proposed does nothing to illuminate: 1. the criteria/attributes that best describe the ideal troll 2. explicit descriptors of levels of performance for such criteria 2. a particular troll's performance for such criteria f

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-19 Thread cunobelinus
and it would change its behaviour when observed. Can also be active in several places at once and affect directly at enormous distances the behaviour of others unfortunate enough to be entangled with it. Quantum troll. On 18 Mar 2010, at 18:56, seanadams wrote: > > erland;526148 Wrote: >>

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Mnyb
A really cool thing is if someone could write a nice bot software that auto responded to to posts with Seans form prefilled. Searching for key phrases like quantum purifiers, "wav sounds better than flac" -- Mnyb Main hifi:

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread iPhone
Siduhe;526244 Wrote: > > > Rather than engage in this tired discussion, I suggest exploring the > following factors which are more likely to improve sound quality in your > situation: > ( ) room acoustics > ( ) source material > ( ) type of speakers > ( ) speaker placement > ( ) crossover point

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Peter314
Phil Leigh;526154 Wrote: > I reckon anyone who mentions Firmware 15 must get 6... *sigh* 6/10 You set 'em up, I'll knock 'em down... :) -- Peter314 Peter314's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Siduhe
Aha! Found it - who wants to have a go at a non-audiophile forum version?: You claim that an ( ) audible ( ) measurable ( ) hypothetical improvement in sound quality can be attained by: ( ) upsampling ( ) non-oversampling ( ) increasing word size ( ) vibration dampening ( ) bi-wiring ( ) replaci

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Mnyb
Did anyone remember those fellas that claimed that the SB sounded different if you paused the music and then started it again ? They got the tread going for 5-6 pages and claimed that they would be back with measurements, but then it just stopped ? Id just now realized what it was 2 years after t

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Greg Klanderman
> how would i read a mailinglist with slrn? I'm not sure every newsreader can necessarily read mail, but some do. I use Gnus, an emacs based newsreader, which also handles email. If you're motivated, you could probably run a local news server, pipe the slim mailing list mail into it, and use any

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread iPhone
seanadams;526162 Wrote: > The perfect troll, by definition, is perfectly stealthy. Thus it could > never be detected so as to receive a rating. > > This may seem paradoxical but it is elegantly explained by a sort of > warping of the "thread fabric", which occurs as the limit is approached. So

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread seanadams
erland;526148 Wrote: > Just to get a reference point, I'm really interested if there are any > known 10/10 trolls ? The perfect troll, by definition, is perfectly stealthy. Thus it could never be detected so as to receive a rating. This may seem paradoxical but it is elegantly explained by a

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Phil Leigh
I reckon anyone who mentions Firmware 15 must get 6... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Akt

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Pat Farrell
erland wrote: > Just to get a reference point, I'm really interested if there are any > known 10/10 trolls ? > Or is this like perfect audio quality, an unreachable level which no > one is ever going to reach ? I've never seen one in six years. I think its the perfection, unreachable. Most common

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread erland
Just to get a reference point, I'm really interested if there are any known 10/10 trolls ? Or is this like perfect audio quality, an unreachable level which no one is ever going to reach ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extens

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Phil Leigh
seanadams;526137 Wrote: > 3/10. :-) - nice one. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread seanadams
pfarrell;526132 Wrote: > if it uses well established nonsense such as jitter 3/10. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showt

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Pat Farrell
seanadams wrote: > Points are awarded for the effectiveness of the troll, with > consideration for style, originality, and stealthiness. Judges > especially favor a convincing appeal to newly discovered pseudoscience > and techno-jargon. OK, so if a post talks about newly invented pseudoscience,

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread seanadams
iPhone;526126 Wrote: > Is it a seven judge panel where the high and low scores are discarded > then the remaining scores averaged? Are the judges appointed for life or > on a rotating panel? Yes, yes, and yes. However, note that we refer to "judges" in the -pluralis majestatis- sense. -- sean

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread iPhone
seanadams;526123 Wrote: > Points are awarded for the effectiveness of the troll, with > consideration for style, originality, and stealthiness. Judges > especially favor a convincing appeal to newly discovered pseudoscience > and techno-jargon. Is it a seven judge panel where the high and low s

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread JJZolx
seanadams;526123 Wrote: > Points are awarded for the effectiveness of the troll, with > consideration for style, originality, and stealthiness. Judges > especially favor a convincing appeal to newly discovered pseudoscience > and techno-jargon. Transporter: The greatest trick the devil ever pul

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread seanadams
Points are awarded for the effectiveness of the troll, with consideration for style, originality, and stealthiness. Judges especially favor a convincing appeal to newly discovered pseudoscience and techno-jargon. -- seanadams

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread iPhone
Don't know if the green block is any help or even a so so indicator. I have yet to see any color but green. Even a new Forum member with only 5 total posts "is on a distinguished path". When I look at my User information, I can see when people have taken the time to use the scales icon to rate/le

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread snarlydwarf
been a while since i played on lusenet, but nntps://snews.gmane.org/ should work as a news server. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread fragfutter
getting off-topic, but i need to ask... how would i read a mailinglist with slrn? -- fragfutter fragfutter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/s

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Greg Klanderman
> On March 18, 2010 fragfutter > wrote: > and in usegroups i had my very own scorefile, could ignore users, or > threads, could highlight other users, or subjects, or ... > usenet was superior to any forum i've seen. You can subscribe to the mailing list and use a newsreader to read t

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread fragfutter
and in usegroups i had my very own scorefile, could ignore users, or threads, could highlight other users, or subjects, or ... usenet was superior to any forum i've seen. -- fragfutter fragfutter's Profile: http://forums.

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread bobkoure
Mark Miksis;526005 Wrote: > Heh, this is less than obvious at best... OK - this is the first time I've ever noticed those. Can the forum software change that graphic based on the score? That said, I don't think we have a problem. Spam posts are very much under control and "trolling"... well one

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Siduhe
Ok, I've been searching for the last ten minutes - can someone point me to the Sean Adams response'o'matic multiple choice auto response post? Sounds like we could update and resurrect it... -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? "-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the t

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Mark Miksis
I'm also not sure how to give another user negative reputation points. -- Mark Miksis Mark Miksis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.ph

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-18 Thread Mark Miksis
erland;525995 Wrote: > Where is the user reputations seen ? > To make it useful it feels like it at least needs to be indicated > somehow in the heading of each forum post. Heh, this is less than obvious at best... In the upper right hand corner of each post is a block of info with a small colo

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-17 Thread erland
Mark Miksis;525992 Wrote: > FWIW, these forums have both thread rating and user reputations enabled. > They could possibly benefit from some tweaking and publicity, but they > are there. Almost no one ever uses them. > Where is the user reputations seen ? To make it useful it feels like it at l

Re: [slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-17 Thread Mark Miksis
FWIW, these forums have both thread rating and user reputations enabled. They could possibly benefit from some tweaking and publicity, but they are there. Almost no one ever uses them. -- Mark Miksis Mark Miksis's Profile

[slim] Proper scoring for troll postings, per seanadams

2010-03-17 Thread pfarrell
We seem to be attracting a lot of, er, unfounded and uninformed postings about the audio quality of various SD/Logitech devices, the brains or lack thereof of Logitech management, etc. The Touch seems to bring out nearly as many as the Audiophile forum does. I'm a fan of reputation based systems