This probably has more to do with the clip detection than much else. I
have an old sony pre-amp (home theater) switcher which I run the
digital optical out to and don't see any clip indicator while playing
normal music at either vol. 40 or fixed out level (should be the same
thing). Certain devi
I'm having what seems to be a similar issue with a Clari-T amp.
Analog out to the amp without any Pre-amp Volume attenuation in the SB3
results in significant audible clipping and popping and distortion with
the amp's volume above 1/4 of the dial.
Digital out to a DAC and then to the amp, with t
Thanks -- Yes, I've inputted test signals at exactly 0db, and it says
it's clipping, but it sounds OK as nearly as I can tell.
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There is something wrong with the behringer if it's clipping on a
full-scale digital input. A PCM signal, by definition, has a fixed
range of output values - you can't make it arbitrarily "hot", like you
can for an analog output.
Try the built-in sine wave test (hold power to reset, then press "3
^^^ Yeah, that's sort of where I am with it too. I can't hear any
clipping, so I guess I'll forget about it.
You can definitely hear it if the output is clipping though.
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I ignore it when the DEQ shows digital input into the red. I cannot
hear any actual distortion or degredation in the sound, so I don't
worry about it any more. I used to pad the input with the gain offset,
but I've brought it back up to zero since then. Any digital sample at
0db is going to reg
^^^ Alright, I take that back again!
It's possible to isolate the input signal, and according to the
Behringer, it IS in fact clipping.
I don't -think- I can hear it clipping audibly (as long as I take a few
dbs off the output signal); but that that's what it says.
Any more insight in this?
OK, I see the problem now. It's not the input signal. Even though the
meter measures the input signal, it -also- hits red if the output
signal clips.
So setting the gain offset to take off about 7db definitely solves the
problem.
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radish Wrote:
> Ahh I see - I didn't realise what the device was, I thought it was a
> DAC. If you're at full input range and you EQ it up, it'll clip. To
> verify that it's not the SB doing something weird hook up a regular CDP
> and play the same track, should be exactly the same.
According to
Ahh I see - I didn't realise what the device was, I thought it was a
DAC. If you're at full input range and you EQ it up, it'll clip. To
verify that it's not the SB doing something weird hook up a regular CDP
and play the same track, should be exactly the same.
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crooner Wrote:
> Perhaps its the analog stages after DA conversion that are "too hot" and
> clip the signal...
As far as I know, the Behringer isn't (at least I hope it isn't) doing
any conversion to analog. I'm taking the digital signal in, EQ'ing it,
and taking a digital signal out. I bought
JJZolx wrote:
> Mike Anderson Wrote:
>
>>Thus I have to turn the SB volume down to 35-37 to avoid clipping. Is
>>it true that I'm losing sound quality by using the SB at volume 35 as
>>compared with 40? It tends to sound better at 40 (at least when
>>there's no clipping) but I can't tell if it's
Mike Anderson Wrote:
> Some claim that if you don't play the SB at full volume (40), you're
> losing sound quality. I'd like to know if that's true, because when I
> run my SB2 at full volume it is too hot for the device receiving the
> signal (Behringer DEQ2496), and I seem to get clipping, at
What I don't get is how a digital signal can be "too hot". It's just 16
bit PCM right? So the range is fixed. Surely a 16 bit DAC which clips
converting 16 bit values to analog is kinda broken?
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Perhaps its the analog stages after DA conversion that are "too hot" and
clip the signal...
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Mike Anderson Wrote:
> ^^^ My signal is going from the SB2 into the Behringer before going to
> the pre-amp. At 40, the signal is too hot for the Behringer.
He meant the preamp feature in SlimServer, Player Settings - Audio -
Preamp Volume Control. I'm not sure if it's in 6.2.1 but it's in the
^^^ My signal is going from the SB2 into the Behringer before going to
the pre-amp. At 40, the signal is too hot for the Behringer.
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Isn't this what the preamp volume control is for?
Max
Mike Anderson Wrote:
> Some claim that if you don't play the SB at full volume (40), you're
> losing sound quality. I'd like to know if that's true, because when I
> run my SB2 at full volume it is too hot for the device receiving the
> sig
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