Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2007-01-11 Thread Peter
lemmy999 wrote: Peter;163189 Wrote: Configure IP filters on your router and only allow certain IP addresses in. That's perfectly secure and fairly easy to set up, provided your 'clients' have static ip's. I have had 3 different routers (Linksys, Netgear and now a US Robotics) and I

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2007-01-10 Thread lemmy999
Peter;163189 Wrote: Configure IP filters on your router and only allow certain IP addresses in. That's perfectly secure and fairly easy to set up, provided your 'clients' have static ip's. Regards, Peter I have had 3 different routers (Linksys, Netgear and now a US Robotics) and I

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2007-01-09 Thread Mark Lanctot
jonheal;164307 Wrote: I sort of hijacked another thread with this topic, so I'm moving back to my own... Well, I'm at a bit of a loss with the whole Reverse Proxy thing. It definitely is prohibiting play (but allowing everything else) at this point. I reckon I've got a http header

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-22 Thread jonheal
I sort of hijacked another thread with this topic, so I'm moving back to my own... I'm working on the Reverse Proxy approach right now. I'm far from a networking expert, so it's all pretty much Greek to me, but I downloaded a free reverse proxy server for Windows called at32 Reverse Proxy.

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-22 Thread shadowboxer
no, no, jonheal, come back to my thread!;-)) -- shadowboxer shadowboxer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30564

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-18 Thread AndrueC
Opening a port on your firewall is like unlocking a door on your house. The security implications depend on who or what is waiting behind that door. As long as the software that answers the door is robust and can't be duped there is no problem. Unfortunately it is very difficult to write

Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-18 Thread Peter
renaissanceboy wrote: as someone who is not a networking expert, i don't know enough about forwarding procedures to say for sure, but if i have the option to use any sort of security, i will (obviously) take it. perhaps you can offer some advice on setting this up? The best thing to handle

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-18 Thread renaissanceboy
thank you very much. this has been very helpful. it looks like the best thing for me to do is to create a separate user account for slimserver, with read-only access to my music, and keep the password protection on. again, thanks a lot everyone. -- renaissanceboy

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-17 Thread kefa
this is part of the reason I uninstalled slimserver from my normal user account (not an administrator, but plenty of personal information), and reinstalled it under a dedicated slimserver user account. I then gave the new slimserver user read-only access to my music library and read-write to the

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-17 Thread renaissanceboy
hi there, i'm a new member of slimserver (i do not have a squeezebox), and i'm working on accessing my music library over the internet using softsqueeze. i've been corresponding with a few people in the beginners forum on the non-static ip thread, but i still have a few unanswered questions, and

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-17 Thread Mark Lanctot
renaissanceboy;163114 Wrote: first of all: if i forward ports 9000 and 3843 (or whatever they are), what real-life security risks does that pose? Anyone and their dog can access your SlimServer. I think to find these in Google you do this:

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-17 Thread renaissanceboy
so if i don't have any slim devices hardware (which i don't) the only security risk is that someone could listen to/download my music? i'm all right with that risk as long as there's no (or no significant) danger of my files or network in general being accessed. -- renaissanceboy

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-17 Thread Mark Lanctot
renaissanceboy;163118 Wrote: so if i don't have any slim devices hardware (which i don't) the only security risk is that someone could listen to/download my music? They could still delete your player preferences or crash your SlimServer. i'm all right with that risk as long as there's no

Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-17 Thread Pat Farrell
renaissanceboy wrote: first of all: if i forward ports 9000 and 3843 (or whatever they are), what real-life security risks does that pose? second: if i use slimserver's password protection (which i do), does that offer a significant amount of protection? third: is it a good idea, as i saw

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-17 Thread renaissanceboy
as someone who is not a networking expert, i don't know enough about forwarding procedures to say for sure, but if i have the option to use any sort of security, i will (obviously) take it. perhaps you can offer some advice on setting this up? i'm running mac os x 10.4.8, so by separate user

Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-15 Thread Peter
jonheal wrote: Pale Blue Ego;162253 Wrote: Why would these ports be open to the world in the first place? You can limit the address range. Not practical, in this case. I plan on taking the SB to my mother-in-law's for Christmas. She has Verizon DSL, but gets a dynamic IP just like

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-15 Thread jonheal
At first I thought it didn't need to be, but it appears that port 9000 must also be open to play remotely with SoftSqueeze. You can browse your collection in SoftSqueeze with 9000 closed but hit the play button, and it makey no sound. Drag. :-( -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day!

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-14 Thread jonheal
Pale Blue Ego;162253 Wrote: Why would these ports be open to the world in the first place? You can limit the address range. Not practical, in this case. I plan on taking the SB to my mother-in-law's for Christmas. She has Verizon DSL, but gets a dynamic IP just like 99% of everybody with

Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-14 Thread Peter
Mark Lanctot wrote: Peter;162026 Wrote: Mark Lanctot wrote: Plus an open port puts up a red flag to all the bots out there looking for interesting IPs. A hacker may come back and do some further investigation - finding other things that may be much more dangerous and

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-14 Thread Paul_B
Jon, You are right most providers give out dynamic IP addresses rather than static. But it is very likely you will maintain the same IP address time after time, unless you turn off your Broadband connection for a long period. Even if the IP address changes you could still only allow the IP

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-13 Thread radish
If there's one lesson to take away from this thread it's that IP-location mapping services are largely useless :) They're based primarily on ARIN lookups, and the ISP which owns theheals.net is based on Las Vegas - whilst they obviously provide service all over the country/world. -- radish

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-13 Thread Paul_B
Agree with Peter go with a VPN it possible. If not then limit the source address range that you are opening the port to on your firewall. You can always look at your firewall log to see what IP address you came in on at what time. As for buffer overflows it seems to be the easiest method to find

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-13 Thread jonheal
radish;162091 Wrote: If there's one lesson to take away from this thread it's that IP-location mapping services are largely useless :) They're based primarily on ARIN lookups, and the ISP which owns theheals.net is based on Las Vegas - whilst they obviously provide service all over the

Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-13 Thread Chip Hart
Mark Lanctot wrote: P.S. the hacker wannabe in me likes to try to bring up the router admin pages in the hotels he connects. You'd be surprised what he finds. Interesting link: http://www.phenoelit.de/dpl/dpl.html I also managed to do this for an unsecured wireless network viewable from my

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-13 Thread radish
jonheal;162118 Wrote: Well, I own the domain name, but no-ip.com is doing the dynamic dns for me and they're based in Las Vegas, so that's where that comes from. Sure - I meant they own the IP currently assigned to it rather than the domain...but you knew that :) -- radish

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Lanctot
Peter;162026 Wrote: Mark Lanctot wrote: Plus an open port puts up a red flag to all the bots out there looking for interesting IPs. A hacker may come back and do some further investigation - finding other things that may be much more dangerous and that he can exploit immediately This

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-13 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Why would these ports be open to the world in the first place? You can limit the address range. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread:

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread byKnight
The risk is that someone finds a weakness in the way SlimServer is implemented that they can use to comandeer it for purposes nefarious. -- byKnight Really, it was like that when I got here. byKnight's Profile:

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread jonheal
Gregory Hamilton;161929 Wrote: They can control your squeezboxes. Think of sudden loud music in the middle of the night! They can download music from your server. There is a download link for each song. They can display text messages on your Squeezeboxes. But not if 9000 is closed,

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
SlimServer was not really designed for high security. With its ports wide open, who knows what a determined hacker can do with it? Plus an open port puts up a red flag to all the bots out there looking for interesting IPs. A hacker may come back and do some further investigation - finding

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread Browny
My take on this has always been that opening a port is not the issue its the confidence you have in the software thats listening on that port The questions should really be: - 'how resilient is Slimserver' to attacks (e.g. Buffer Overruns) I guess thats one for the developers to answer. -

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread jonheal
Mark Lanctot;161935 Wrote: SlimServer was not really designed for high security. With its ports wide open, who knows what a determined hacker can do with it? Plus an open port puts up a red flag to all the bots out there looking for interesting IPs. A hacker may come back and do some

Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread Mitch Harding
From what I understand, something has to be listening on a port in order for there to be a security vulnerability. So I think in this case, yes, SlimServer is the only possible security hole. AFAIK. On 12/12/06, jonheal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Lanctot;161935 Wrote: SlimServer was

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread MrC
jonheal;161938 Wrote: Now, here's where my lack of networking expertise comes into play ... if a port is open, but nothing's listening on it, or in this case, only SlimServer, is the only way into the network through that port, THROUGH Slimserver? Ports are opened to allow access to the

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
jonheal;161938 Wrote: Now, here's where my lack of networking expertise comes into play ... if a port is open, but nothing's listening on it, or in this case, only SlimServer, is the only way into the network through that port, THROUGH Slimserver? Perhaps I typed out of turn here as I can't

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread jonheal
Well, I closed 9000 because it's just plain unecessary. I also disabled 3483 on the router for the time being, mostly because I was afraid that one of the guardian angels posting on this thread might decide to teach me a lesson somehow! ;-) Although now that I think about it, come on in ... if

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
jonheal;161952 Wrote: Well, I closed 9000 because it's just plain unecessary. I also disabled 3483 on the router for the time being, mostly because I was afraid that one of the guardian angels posting on this thread might decide to teach me a lesson somehow! ;-) Although now that I

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread jonheal
Mark Lanctot;161959 Wrote: But I'm not sure if I really belong in your basement! :-D Love the guard dog... You obviously have a web server running - suffice it to say that's more complex than 99% of home users out there. It suggests your network is well secured - you probably know your

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
jonheal;161960 Wrote: Mark, I thought it might have been you that was visiting as I reverse DNSed one of the IPs in the web server log and it pointed to a particular cable company in a particular country somewhat to the north of me, which is where I think you reside. :-) I'm in

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread JJZolx
What I'd worry about: SlimServer is the single easiest application to crash that I've ever seen. Transpose a single letter in the query string and it's history. Try this link from a browswer running on your server: http://localhost:9000/browsedb.html?hierarchy=album,tracc I suppose someone

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread snarlydwarf
Mark Lanctot;161965 Wrote: The reverse DNS lookup by location shows you're in Las Vegas. LOL! Ah, but my rdns is more amusing: depending on how the roundrobin record works, I move around from OR to WA or MN... methinks comcast is very confused. NET-24-20-0-0-1 is very odd. This isnt my

[slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread jonheal
JJZolx;161967 Wrote: What I'd worry about: SlimServer is the single easiest application to crash that I've ever seen. Transpose a single letter in the query string and it's history. Try this link from a browswer running on your server:

Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread Peter
Mark Lanctot wrote: Plus an open port puts up a red flag to all the bots out there looking for interesting IPs. A hacker may come back and do some further investigation - finding other things that may be much more dangerous and that he can exploit immediately This makes no sense IMHO.

Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread Peter
MrC wrote: jonheal;161938 Wrote: Now, here's where my lack of networking expertise comes into play ... if a port is open, but nothing's listening on it, or in this case, only SlimServer, is the only way into the network through that port, THROUGH Slimserver? Ports are opened to allow

Re: [slim] Re: Open Ports ... Security Issue?

2006-12-12 Thread Peter
jonheal wrote: Well, I closed 9000 because it's just plain unecessary. I also disabled 3483 on the router for the time being, mostly because I was afraid that one of the guardian angels posting on this thread might decide to teach me a lesson somehow! ;-) Although now that I think about it,