Nonreality;314456 Wrote:
It's a good thing that they're toys, just think of the problems you
could have had. :)
Business routers are much more frustrating, but not in the sense that
they don't perform as designed. Anyone who works with CISCO IOS would
probably agree, you have to have the
ianstuart;313923 Wrote:
I think that some of the posts are missing the point. Yes, a lot of the
problems that people are experiencing are due to conflicts between the
router, or in my case the Netgear range extender, and the Squeezeboxes
(I note that the SB3's seem to be much more robust)
I'm no techy, but even I know that you can setup DHCP and still use
static IPs where you want. Just setup the DHCP range outside the range
of the static IPs. IMO this will make your life much easier.
Howard Passman;311122 Wrote:
Hi Mike,
When forced to, I let the Linksys router hand out
lanierb;314344 Wrote:
I'm no techy, but even I know that you can setup DHCP and still use
static IPs where you want. Just setup the DHCP range outside the range
of the static IPs. IMO this will make your life much easier.
The only thing that makes this an issue is the fact that most of
Howard Passman;314367 Wrote:
The only thing that makes this an issue is the fact that most of these
home routers are more like toys that real routers. The issues are
usually with them.
Using static and DHCP on the same network or router is not an issue as
long as you do it correctly.
I think that some of the posts are missing the point. Yes, a lot of the
problems that people are experiencing are due to conflicts between the
router, or in my case the Netgear range extender, and the Squeezeboxes
(I note that the SB3's seem to be much more robust) but that doesn't
excuse
amcluesent;310917 Wrote:
LOL. Kudos for Slimdevices for still trying. So they've blown through
any margin and then some of the product.
I'd have given it 30 minutes and then refunded you to limit my loses.
I suspect you're confusing fixed and variable cost here. It's probably
more a
I chose Vista because I got a sweet deal on a used, relatively Green
HP Slimline computer.
I know I could have built something for less, and it could have run
Linux.
However, I don't have the time to build anything, and I have no
knowledge of Linux; therefore the learning curve would be long
I got a more energy-efficient (Vista) machine to use only as my music
server.
So having gone through one install that didn't work due to Comodo
firewall (had to be uninstalled) and one successful install on an XP
machine, I decided to do Vista with SC 7.01.
The install went flawlessly.
The
If I was setting up a music server only I'd sure run linux unless there
was some real reason not to. (I run my server and other stuff on
Debian).
Why did you choose windows?
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Like it, this thread has turned into an IP masterclass ;)
Why not just set address reservations in your DHCP setup, most new
routers support this, just add the MAC address of the network card and
each time it asks for an IP address the router will return the same IP
address linked to the MAC.
cparker;311459 Wrote:
Why not just set address reservations in your DHCP setup
In my setup this was not enough because the DHCP-client on my Vista
Laptop (running SC) still produced systematic errors causing connection
dropouts. So I had to assign a true static IP in Vista to disable/omit
mvalera;310992 Wrote:
I just talked to QA... the only way you see the Wireless, Static or
Fixed IP screen is when, during setup, the controller cannot find a
DHCP server at all.
What exactly are you using for a DHCP server? Our QA team would really
like to know what you are using.
*My*
pfarrell;310807 Wrote:
Howard Passman wrote:[color=blue]
I run my network with control over DNS and DHCP, and it just works.
When
I got my Receiver, I plugged it in and it has worked perfectly since
with zero fiddling.
I run DNS and DHCP servers on my music server.
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Howard,
Very few people require an internal DNS server, but it's a common
misconception that DHCP is hassle...it actually makes like
significantly easier.
Without DHCP, one has to manually supply IP address, subnet mask,
default gateway and DNS server IP addresses manually on each device. In
Pat Farrell wrote:
Howard Passman wrote:
I really don't think home networks are the biggest issue.
[snip]
What seemed to make everything start working was changing the IP
addresses when I finally got to the point where the receivers would
allow me to assign static addresses.
Howard Passman wrote:
pfarrell;310807 Wrote:
I run DNS and DHCP servers on my music server.
Hi Pat. Question? Do you run an application server or email server on
your network? If not, what advantage do you get from runnng DNS and
DHCP?
DNS is mainly about caching, no need to clank to
jaffacake wrote:
Very few people require an internal DNS server, but it's a common
misconception that DHCP is hassle...it actually makes like
significantly easier.
[snip
The only time not using DHCP is advantageous is if your DHCP
infrastructure is broken and refuses to issue address to
Peter wrote:
Pat Farrell wrote:
I run DNS and DHCP servers on my music server.
I used to, but then I got tired of having my whole home network going
down whenever I did some maintenance on my server.
Yes, to make it work, you need redundant server.
I've got about 20 PCs in my house, so
pfarrell;311193 Wrote:
Peter wrote:
Pat Farrell wrote:
I run DNS and DHCP servers on my music server.
I used to, but then I got tired of having my whole home network going
down whenever I did some maintenance on my server.
Yes, to make it work, you need redundant server.
I've
jaffacake;311169 Wrote:
Howard,
The only time not using DHCP is advantageous is if your DHCP
infrastructure is broken and refuses to issue address to new devices.
In this case, the problem is that specific DHCP deployment, not the
protocol itself.
My linksys router acts as my DHCP
maggior;311225 Wrote:
My linksys router acts as my DHCP server. My network consists of 2
wireless squeezeboxes, 4 PCs, and 2 laptops. Only my laptops are set
to use DHCP. My PCs are static because I have some port forwarding
configured and the addresses need to remain static. Perhaps
I use static at work because as part of my job (small part) I have to
take care of three subnets at 4 locations over MPLS. I static address
because it eliminates some steps if someone can't connect to the
network 9Actually never happens with static addressing). Also makes
Desktop Remote (yes,
results? I had nothing that worked when we were done.
Started with not being able to connect to SqueezeNetwork and finished
up with not even having one out of two receivers working at all. The
tech wanted to sleep on it.
Now, I'm not nagging the tech support guys, except for the fact
What's your music to fiddle ratio?? I think I'll start that one.
More on topic, I wonder if they will ever get the SB so the average
person can use it. I wonder if they are trying to? I don't believe
the comments about being open source as being a valid reason for
being so difficult. I don't
As a new user, that has been the theme of my criticism.
My first experience with SqueezeCenter was a problem installing that
could only be resolved by completely uninstalling my firewall. I
posted here and no one suggested it. I was supposed to call Tech
Support. However, I uninstalled the
My first experience with SqueezeCenter was a problem installing that
could only be resolved by completely uninstalling my firewall. I
What firewall are/were you using?
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More on topic, I wonder if they will ever get the SB so the average
person can use it.
We surely hope so. And we're working hard on it. I'm right now improving the
installer which then should recognize common issues like firewalls blocking
network access, other applications conflicting with
Thanks for the reply. I really don't think home networks are the
biggest issue. Tons of folks do manage to get them set up with no help
or the help of a friend. Of course wireless makes it worse, but...
I'm not using any firewall since I don't use the browser. My feeling
are most security
Howard Passman wrote:
I really don't think home networks are the biggest issue.
[snip]
What seemed to make everything start working was changing the IP
addresses when I finally got to the point where the receivers would
allow me to assign static addresses. I'm surmising it was a DHCP issue
Howard Passman;310760 Wrote:
I'm not using any firewall since I don't use the browser.
He means the router (or ASDL router). If you can't access
Squeezenetwork the problem must be within your network.
If you are not using a router/firewall/nat-device then you might not be
getting an IP
Howard Passman;310717 Wrote:
results? I had nothing that worked when we were done.
Peace
For both Howard and Jimzak, let me guess that both of you are using
Windows? Between Windows and the fact that the Squeezebox IS a Network
Media Player (the keyword being Network) a bunch of things
iPhone;310846 Wrote:
As Pat said, I had mine up and running in 10 minutes and I was sitting
on the couch taking my time. I have had no real problems with it
whatsoever. When I set Duets up for friends the average time after
installing SC to get it up and running is about 6 minutes.
I'm
Howard Passman;310760 Wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I really don't think home networks are the
biggest issue.
I have to agree with Pfarrell on this one. Any difficulties that I have
ever had have boiled down to networking issues, and in this case yours
did as well.
What router are you
jaffacake;310851 Wrote:
I'm trying to avoid Howard's threads but please keep it real.
Quoting the time it takes to get it up and running *AFTER* you've setup
SqueezeCenter is a little pointless, no? For many beginners, setting up
the SC server is the hardest part by far. You already had a
I had mine up and playing music in 20 minutes. Half that time was
because I had messed up my WPA password. I don't run static ip's and I
don't see how you think having average and below average users switch
their networks to static will help make setup easier.
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iPhone;310846 Wrote:
For both Howard and Jimzak, let me guess that both of you are using
Windows? Between Windows and the fact that the Squeezebox IS a Network
Media Player (the keyword being Network) a bunch of things can already
be wrong before one starts out to setup a Duet. As Pat said,
LOL. Kudos for Slimdevices for still trying. So they've blown through
any margin and then some of the product.
I'd have given it 30 minutes and then refunded you to limit my loses.
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Excellent point.
They did call back tonight and asked if it would be o.k. to call back
at the end of the week to (A) see if everything is still working and
(B) ask more questions about how I got it working. The support tech
was also very curious about how I got the screen on my controller that
I just talked to QA... the only way you see the Wireless, Static or
Fixed IP screen is when, during setup, the controller cannot find a
DHCP server at all.
What exactly are you using for a DHCP server? Our QA team would really
like to know what you are using.
*My* 2 second diagnosis, is that
I had an issue the other day, which was typical of how these things have
always worked themselves out for me...
My office SB2, which has been rock solid for several years (wirelessly
connected about 3 feet from my wireless access point with 100% signal
strength) decided to disconnect itself and
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