snarlydwarf;515288 Wrote:
I think the big hangup would be religious: tagging correctly is a very
personal issue.
People should be able to tag however they want, but submissions to a
shared database should follow some standards.
Anyway, this is getting off-topic, but if anyone is interested
Why not work with MusicBrainz to improve their tagging of classical
music? That's the obvious answer to this problem.
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From http://www.olive.us/products/olive4hd/specs.html:
The Olive 4HD Hi-Fi Server is designed and custom-built in San
Francisco, expressing the innovative energy of the Silicon Valley and
the music passion of the Bay Area.
They're careful not to come out and say it, but I love it when SF
grego.speiser;512037 Wrote:
...I will likely buy an Acer Aspire R3610 for $300 (Canadian) and
install XBMC, SBS and whatever the software-based player is called
(squeezeplay, softsqueeze?).
You want squeezeslave (runs at the command line). See this 'thread'
GeeJay;511127 Wrote:
and b) they come up with software that approaches the genius of Erland's
suite of plugins...
I have the same question: do any of these other systems have anything
comparable to CustomScan/CustomBrowse? I'm sure I'd have given up on SB
by now without these; it's just too
Daverz;515170 Wrote:
And if any of them provided a tag database with quality metadata for
classical music, that would be the killer feature for me.
I wonder if there are enough Squeezebox Server users that have quality
tagged classical music to make a central database ?
I've had some ideas
erland;515233 Wrote:
I wonder if there are enough Squeezebox Server users that have quality
tagged classical music to make a central database ?
I've had some ideas earlier that it could be useful to make it possible
to share metadata/tags between users. The main reason I haven't tried
Daverz;515277 Wrote:
But sharing data is not much of a help if there's no data integrity,
and the best place to enforce that is in the tagging software itself.
I think the big hangup would be religious: tagging correctly is a
very personal issue.
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Saw this article today and recalled this thread.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/05/AR2010020504740.html?hpid=sec-tech
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I don't know but it seems I can watch the Unforgiven over and over and
if I'm switching channels and the Shawshank Redemption is on, then I'm
stuck. There are others that do this to me also. Video's do mean
something to me.
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Add to all that - public domain movies. There is a ton of movies in
the public domain now. Download and watch free. If you have a pc based
dvr you can record and watch what you want when you want.
If there was a device Squeezebox device like my media player I would
buy one in a heartbeat.
In the midst of renovating our attic, I am re-considering my plan to use
a squeezebox touch.
With the advent of cheap nettops that can output 1080p video thru HDMI,
I will likely buy an Acer Aspire R3610 for $300 (Canadian) and install
XBMC, SBS and whatever the software-based player is called
bobkoure;511411 Wrote:
I'm having a hard time understanding why the server software should be
the same for both video and audio, and why there shouldn't just be
separate players.
The obvious reasons are:
- It's often cheaper to get one device than getting two
- For the manufacturer it might
Gerry123;511417 Wrote:
A man (or woman) after my own heart. Video, be it TV or films have never
managed to immerse me as music does. I watch films/TV but have no desire
to watch the same thing again even if I did think it was quite good.
Music on the other hand I could listen to again and
was this already posted in the forums?
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Internet-Radio-Grace-Squeezebox,review-1499.html
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iPhone;511001 Wrote:
WHY would it cost to much?
Video capability might not make the players more expensive, but the
price for it would be even less development resources for the core
components audio, SBS, and MySB. I'd rather have the known bugs fixed
before they start implementing yet another
I'm having a hard time understanding why the server software should be
the same for both video and audio, and why there shouldn't just be
separate players.
Want video? Install/run the video server software (optionally on the
same server a music server is running on).
The video player's probably
usch;511267 Wrote:
Video capability might not make the players more expensive, but the
price for it would be even less development resources for the core
components audio, SBS, and MySB. I'd rather have the known bugs fixed
before they start implementing yet another feature.
I know that
Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I
start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current
state of my hard- and software and stop updating.
Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have
the typical artist / album / track
+1
Dave
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usch;510837 Wrote:
Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I
start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current
state of my hard- and software and stop updating.
Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have
the
usch;510837 Wrote:
Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I
start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current
state of my hard- and software and stop updating.
Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have
the
what i don't get about many of these other offerings is that they want
me to replace my CD player with a new box - a server/player-combo-box
that stroes my music there. err, i have a perfectly good server in the
house, and i don't want a music server as a replacement for my CD player
- i want a
usch;510837 Wrote:
Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I
start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current
state of my hard- and software and stop updating.
Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have
the
pablolie;510951 Wrote:
so i think the basic architecture of some systems is flawed by trying
to be some sort of new appliance that replicates functionality that is
available elsewhere, and includes areas of expertise that are alien to
audio vendors (why on earth should they design a better
bhaagensen;510959 Wrote:
Sorry, but I don't think this argument holds water. It is assuming
everyone can be bothered to: buy, own, maintain, pay for, allocate space
for, have some remote interest in - a server. I doubt that is the case
for the general public - at least not to an extent where
aubuti:
Indeed, and I somewhat agree with you in that there, for all practical
intents and purposes, currently are several market-segments for these
things.
However at the end of the day I don't think they are that different.
I'm a computer scientist, and I do have a server doing various
mherger;510816 Wrote:
Even MS had to learn this lesson and therefore published Mommy, Why is
There a Server in the House?
http://gizmodo.com/342499/microsofts-brainwashing-childrens-book-mommy-where-do-servers-come-from
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As a brief aside, I thought this was a joke when I saw
snarlydwarf;510953 Wrote:
That and the usage model of video is entirely different than music.
There are very few movies that I have watched more than a dozen times.
I have many many albums that I have listened to dozens of times, and
will listen to dozens of times more.
Regardless of
autopilot;510888 Wrote:
There is a cost element too. Surely a video capable device would cost
more to develop and produce the an audio. I would not want to pay for
features I never use.
WHY would it cost to much? And are you telling us that you use every
available feature on your
I like three olives with my martini's.
But how much would it cost to sync three Olive music systems in my
home?
I'll stick to SB players and put the difference into my IRA, thank you.
:)
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toby10;511084 Wrote:
I like three olives with my martini's.
But how much would it cost to sync three Olive music systems in my
home?
I'll stick to SB players and put the difference into my IRA, thank you.
:)
+1
And a better return on your investment also!
And you must have a huge
toby10;511084 Wrote:
But how much would it cost to sync three Olive music systems in my home?
Note that after getting one Olive 4/4HD as your server ($1500 - 2000),
for the other rooms you could use the Olive 2 players, which are only
$600 each. Yeah, that's steep.
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aubuti;511091 Wrote:
Note that after getting one Olive 4/4HD as your server ($1500 - 2000),
for the other rooms you could use the Olive 2 players, which are only
$600 each. Yeah, that's steep.
I sort of like the Olive 2 thingy, but I'd never buy the Olive 4/4hd. I
want to get rid of boxes,
iPhone;511001 Wrote:
WHY would it cost to much? And are you telling us that you use every
available feature on your current Squeezeboxes? I understand you use the
main one, Audio. Would you not use Video if it were available?
There are two devices for under $250 that do just what SB does
I'll start paying attention to these competitors when a) the price comes
down below $1k for a multi-room setup, and b) they come up with software
that approaches the genius of Erland's suite of plugins...the closest
thing to the perfection I'm seeking in combining the dynamic nature of a
Ah, but competition is good for us consumers.
My next receiver will probably be cheaper, better, or both. With or
without the Logitech logo.
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Combined Ripper, Storage, Player Amplifier, even records analogue.
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betterfidelity,functionality,synchronization,appearance,solid
structure,community forums, etc,etc. I also think Logitech is getting it
together.
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Ikabob;510555 Wrote:
I also think Logitech is getting it together.Let's hope so, because it won't
be long before they're trying to play
catchup across the board.
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IF YOU WANT CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR CUSTOMSCAN AND CUSTOMBROWSE PLUGINS,
VOTE FOR 'BUG #6023 - NEW PLUGIN HOOKS TO
audiomuze;510481 Wrote:
Most are capable of higher resolution playback and prices are
comparable, especially if factoring in server req's by squeezebox. Most
have iPhone apps and some have db's/ interfaces streets ahead. Have a
look at the links...
Not wishing to be too provocative, but
I don't agree I think Linn is in the Transporter market, nowhere near
Logitech Radio / Touch market.
Today Logitech competition in the UK is Sonos. Virtually all Squeeze
dealers have a Sonos portfolio as well. Some (eg Ripcaster have Linn).
Dave
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DaveWr;510565 Wrote:
I don't agree I think Linn is in the Transporter market, nowhere near
Logitech Radio / Touch market.
Er.. that's exactly what I said. The OP was talking about the higher
end I thought, with things like Olive and Bluesmoke, rather than the
Radio/Touch space. My point
My Linn DS works very well with Squeezebox Server.
Dave
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DaveWr;510580 Wrote:
My Linn DS works very well with Squeezebox Server.
Dave
That's very good to know as I might go there myself in the future. Not
having any personal experience of using the two together, but knowing of
the self-confessed hobby nature of the Skweezy plugin writer, I
I think the real comp may end up being the ever cheaper and higher
performing netbooks.
Ron
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ronaldg;510613 Wrote:
I think the real comp may end up being the ever cheaper and higher
performing netbooks.
Ron
Really? i dont, far from it.
Other than Squeezebox, the only other systems worth buying are Sonos,
Linn and maybe Naim. The latter two concentrate on audio quality, they
dont
autopilot;510633 Wrote:
There is a new German made system thats recently been released that
looks very promising though. Forgot the name though.
Raumfeld? The one with that automotive style controller?
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With the steering wheel ??
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audiomuze;510481 Wrote:
Most are capable of higher resolution playback and prices are
comparable, especially if factoring in server req's by squeezebox. Most
have iPhone apps and some have db's/ interfaces streets ahead. Have a
look at the links...
1) I don't need - nobody needs - higher
DaveWr;510550 Wrote:
Brennan.co.uk
Combined Ripper, Storage, Player Amplifier, even records analogue.
My Brother-in-law has one of these. Neat unit - just add speakers.
However:
1) no internet access - tagging from internal DB with updates that must
be purchased! (yeuch)
2) no FLAC
3)
Phil Leigh;510653 Wrote:
My Brother-in-law has one of these. Neat unit - just add speakers.
However:
1) no internet access - tagging from internal DB with updates that must
be purchased! (yeuch)
2) no FLAC
3) 500Gb disk (max) internally - 600 CD's in WAV...
4) no external disk support
It's pretty telling that the recent Linksys offering hasn't even been
mentioned yet. From what I've read, that system suffers from typical
Cisco/Linksys usability and configuration issues.
Personally, I think general media streamers (boxee, popcorn hour,
popbox, etc.) are what will be
DaveWr;510666 Wrote:
Note too hot in the flesh, although cheaper than most. I'll stick with
my DS and SBs though.
Dave
The Brenon looks like it fell out of someones dashboard. Is it the the
same dimension as a car head unit?
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*lounge:* squeezebox 3,
Totally agree about the statement about the NAS 'obsession'. It's a nice
idea but surely a pain in the arse to actually get and keep working
well.
Regarding these other solutions - I don't see any of them having a
ghettoblaster form factor, which is surely a huge part of the Squeezebox
appeal. I
My SB3 units and my Boom are, and probably will continue to be, my best
gadgets in the house. Totally reliably, excellent quality, configurable,
high geek value. I love them. Nothing else comes close.
Jim
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Sonos units are Very high end - and quite wallet busting too.
Squeezebox does exactly what it says on the tin, is affordable, and
while some people have a few problems the vast majority of users I'm
sure are EXTREMELY happy with the products.
The only mod I'd like say on the Radio
autopilot;510633 Wrote:
Other than Squeezebox, the only other systems worth buying are Sonos,
Linn and maybe Naim. The latter two concentrate on audio quality, they
dont seem interested in multi-room, decent UI design or online services
etc. Which is fair enough if thats the area they work
jimbo45;510725 Wrote:
Hi there
Sonos units are Very high end - and quite wallet busting too.
Squeezebox does exactly what it says on the tin, is affordable, and
while some people have a few problems the vast majority of users I'm
sure are EXTREMELY happy with the products.
The only mod
audiomuze;510481 Wrote:
Most are capable of higher resolution playback and prices are
comparable, especially if factoring in server req's by squeezebox. Most
have iPhone apps and some have db's/ interfaces streets ahead. Have a
look at the links...
How is the Qsonix comparable to
Noone mentioned Meridian Soolos...?
From what I've seen the interface looks fantastic i suspect it sounds
great but again price a bit out of my league!!
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I am surprised no one mentioned the current crop of do it all Media
players like the Asus O!Play and the WD Live. They are very capable
players for not a lot of money. Mine will play everything my SB will,
and video as well. It just lacks the ability to do it in the simple
easy way my SB does.
audiomuze;510456 Wrote:
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Those all look like ordinary NASes to me, maybe with audio outputs and
some pre-installed media server software on board. But where are the
dedicated players? Small, unobtrusive devices that I can put on my
bedside table or on a shelf in the kitchen and
Totally agree about the statement about the NAS 'obsession'. It's a nice
idea but surely a pain in the arse to actually get and keep working
well.
If the NAS devices were used for what they were designed, they'd be totally ok.
Storage. Network Attached Storage. But not a do it all for me but
maggior;510678 Wrote:
Personally, I think general media streamers (boxee, popcorn hour,
popbox, etc.) are what will be competing. Most people don't care about
what we obsess about on these forums. I've even seen Blu Ray players
that include Pandora!
i basically agree with this. all in
Hmm... It seems that there is one very important feature missing from
all these players; the text driven interface (or at least XML).
The only one remotely interesting is something I wish Logitech would
check into and that is a video version. I would like a piece of
hardware that can play my
http://www.olive.us/products/olive4hd/specs.html
http://www.qsonix.com/Public/v5/ProductQ110Overview.aspx
http://www.bluesmokesystems.com/
http://www.auraliti.com/
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Perhaps in terms of casework...
Sound?
Cost?
Functionality?
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Phil Leigh;510461 Wrote:
Perhaps in terms of casework...
Sound?
Cost?
Functionality?Most are capable of higher resolution playback and prices are
comparable, especially if factoring in server req's by squeezebox. Most
have iPhone apps and some have db's/ interfaces streets ahead. Have a
look
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