Re: [discuss] How should OOo deal with ods-spreadsheets produced by Excel 2010?

2010-04-16 Thread Daniel Rentz
Hi Regina, Regina Henschel schrieb: No, you cannot use xls, because the functions are not available in xls. The functions can be written to the XLS format (Excel 2007 and 2010 do that too). Internally, all new functions of Excel 2010 are stored as "custom" functions similar to Basic macro c

Re: [discuss] How should OOo deal with ods-spreadsheets produced by Excel 2010?

2010-04-16 Thread Andrew Jensen
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Daniel Rentz wrote: > Hi Regina, > > Regina Henschel schrieb: > > Well > >> No, you cannot use xls, because the functions are not available in xls. >> > > The functions can be written to the XLS format (Excel 2007 and 2010 do that > too). Internally, all new funct

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Lars Nooden
On 04/14/2010 12:15 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: I don't want to discuss the design of the icons here - it's about their basics: Bernhard, please read up on the interoperability goals of ODF, that might help you catch up. In general, a fundamental goal of a universal document format is that i

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Andrew Jensen
> > > Thank you, that is a good choice, Bernhard: Lead, follow, or get out of the > way. > > Regards > /Lars > > > That cuts both way Lar's. If you have ODF over OO.o as your goals then perhaps you should move over to the oasis team and let those want to work on this office suite proceed with what

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Lars Nooden
Re-read my message, Drew. Breaking from normal icon schemes by providing non-standard icons for standard formats is bad marketing for OOo because it implies that somehow OOo might not be using real ODF and instead using a broken version, like M$ Office does. Having icons tied to the applicati

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Lars, Lars Nooden wrote (16-04-10 13:45) Your colleagues at M$ and branches of M$ like Novell support the same divisiveness of the data formats. ODF is for all productivity suites. I don't think it is reasonable or fair towards Bernard to somehow suggest him being a colleague of MS guys.

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Lars Nooden
On 04/16/2010 05:28 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: I don't think it is reasonable or fair towards Bernard to somehow suggest him being a colleague of MS guys. Sorry, it must have been the content of his messages over time that gave that illusion. We'll say it's a coincidence. Regardless, the basics o

[discuss] First report from ODF plugfest

2010-04-16 Thread M. Fioretti
Here it is, while all the ODF hackers around me here in Granada are still hacking, comparing code, discussing bugs and so on: http://freesoftware.zona-m.net/node/10 (a link to the talk I gave yesterday about hidden proprietary traps that may enter ODF is also included) You're obviously welcome t

Re: [discuss] First report from ODF plugfest

2010-04-16 Thread Katsuya Kobayashi
Hi Marco, I can't join this time, but it's useful for me and live as like as my last ODF plugfest in Orvieto. I'll tell this to JA project and my colleagues. Thanks! Katsuya 2010/4/16 M. Fioretti : > Here it is, while all the ODF hackers around me here in Granada are still > hacking, comparing c

Re: [discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOo and Oracle]

2010-04-16 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi Lars, Le 16.04.2010 13:45, Lars Nooden a écrit : > > On 04/14/2010 12:15 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: >> I don't want to discuss the design of the icons here - it's about their >> basics: > > Bernhard, please read up on the interoperability goals of ODF, that > might help you catch up. > > In ge